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NEW INDESIGN USER - PREPARING NOOSE ...

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garyheritage

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NEW INDESIGN USER - PREPARING NOOSE ...

I have some documents supplied, they have a black band at the bottom that overlaps a picture and a round cornered box, but when a PDF is created, you can see the items through the black.

The black is set to 100%, 100% Opacity and as far as I can tell there is no transparency on it - but in the Pages Pane it has the afforementioned chequered logo besides the pages.

I have got to get these out ASAP!!!!!!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!


Gary

 
The checquered box does mean there is a transparency on your page.

Are the images above or below the black band? If they are above it have a blending mode on them, then you would think you are seeing the images through it, but blending modes on images are transparency effects. Try selecting each image and sending the item to the back.

Object>Arrange>Send Item to Back (or backward one step at a time)

Another thing could be that you have have print simulation turned on. Basically, black is just as transparent as any other ink, so you can see through black when it's printed.

So the thing to do here is to make a black called rich black and have the values at 30%C 30%M 30%Y and 100%K

This will give a richer black that won't be so transparent.

And last but not least, never ever ever put an image under a band unless you can get away with it or want that effect. The Box should end at the point that the black band touches. I say never ever ever ever loosely, because you can do this quite simply if you know what you're doing.

Here's the very last thing

Edit>Preferences>Appearance of black

Set the output of Black as Rich Black.

That should solve it for you, any of those suggestions are award winning and brilliant. I have more if you need them. :D
 
wow, that was aspeedy and welcome response!!

I can't mess with the design of the page as they have been supplied (by a national newspaper who know absolutely nothing about page layout ... )

Anyway, I have had a word with the print manager and he is happy to print with the 100/30/30/30 combo.

Thanks again!!

 
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Thanks.
 
...to add...

...the default black swatch is set to overprint in the preferences options > appearance of black > overprinting of [Black] swatch...

...this is useful for text set to the default black to overprint coloured backgrounds, so it being on by default is a good thing...

...however, problems occur with this have you have discovered when artworkers use the black default for solid bands that are on top of other elements...

...choosing view > overprint preview in indesign (with accurate display of blacks turned on in preferences > appearance of black) or overprint preview in acrobat will show the black as overprinting...

...if you create your own 100% black this will knock out by default instead as indesign doesn't see it as a default black...

...rich blacks are good for large areas of ink coverage, but avoid them for text and frames, especially thin ones...

Andrew
 
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