Network+ - Latest editions for testking and troytec 1

[dmbfanatpsu]

I'm prepairing to study for the Network+ exam and I have been handed down a copy of a TestKing and Toytec. I was wondering where I can find what the latest version\edition are for each of these. The TestKing is version 7 and Troytec is edition 3. Are these current\valid?

 

[glister]

I would suggest contacting TestKing and Troytec to find your answers, although neither of those are very highly regarded.

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[dmbfanatpsu]

What resources do you suggest?

 

[glister]

Follow this link:

http://www.getcertify4less.com/network-guide.asp

You can get a discount voucher for the exam and Tcat Houser's Network+ PDF Study Guide, both for $150.00. The regular price for the exam, alone, is $207.00.

Tcat was one of the authors of the original Network+ exam and he is very knowledgable about all things CompTIA. His study guides are written in an easy to read and UNDERSTAND format. His practice questions are dead-on. I highly recommend his material.

Tcat's stuff along with several free study guides available on the net will serve you well in your quest for Net+. Another good site for practice tests/study guides include:

http://www.besttests.com/

http://www.examnotes.net/

http://www.mcmcse.com/

CertiGuide to Network+ (Tcat's Net+ Study Guide in HTML)

http://certiguide.com/netplus/index.htm

That should get you started... Good Luck!

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[setnaffa]

Amen.

Studying actual exam questions is (1) cheating, (2) grounds for having your other certs removed, and most importantly (3) doesn't teach you the materials being tested.

Having a cert without knowledge can get you fired at some companies.

But, lest I sound like some old "holier-than-thou" type, I just want to say that being ridiculed at work or during a potential hiring interview (by proving you don't know what your resume claims you know) is a great way to feel like you're worthless...

For those with or without certs, let me just say that bluffing is the same thing... you know you can't fool the people you work with... and you know people who have tried...

Keep your life full of honor and integrity.


Setnaffa is an MCP-W2K (working on MCSE-W2K) with a few other certs, too...

 

[dmbfanatpsu]

Are testking and troytec illegal? If so why haven't they been shut down? If those are illegal I had no idea.....? I am passed both 70-210 and 70-215 by reading exam cram books. Those had questions in them, are those illegal too?

 

[Kaycek]

Actually, Microsoft is now recommending the Test King as a test material. It was quite a surprise to discover that about a year ago.

Tcat did *help* write the Network+ test, and he is extremely intelligent. However, there is not one book that he personally has authored, in fact, he has someone re-write his writing, because his grammar is extremely poor. I wish he would stick to one thing long enough to finish it, it would be a lot better.

Whatever study guides you use, make sure they are an assistant, while you learn the actual material. One of the bad things about the certification tests, is that no one wants the "paper-trained" certified technician. I am A+ certified, and ready to take my Net+ I haven't taken it yet, because until the last 6 months, I felt I didn't have enough network experience to put the Net+ behind my name.

Now, not only am I studying it, I am also teaching in the computer and the tax fields. If I don't know it now, I never will! Use anything legal to study, and make sure you know your stuff before you test!

Kaycek

 

[glister]

Microsoft recommending Testking? That's a stretch!


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[dmbfanatpsu]

Well thanks for the advice. setnaffa almost made his post seem like he had a complex about something?

 

[setnaffa]

I do have a complex... spent nearly 20 years in IT and back in '99, during the dot-com era, interviewers told me I wasn't technical enough...

And them all of the companies I interviewed with have folded like a Walmart chair under Michael Moore...

I've been working at getting certified since... but I still have a pile of chips on my shoulder...

We had a new guy interview for our team 2 months ago. He was a bit light on experience; but he claimed MCSE 2003:Messaging and CCNP. He didn't know how to restore a single mailbox on Exchange 2000 or 2003. He didn't know how to back up the router configuration.

We laughed at him after he left; but I thought that, even with my years of experience, I was not much better... most of my recent techie bits are self-taught on a pitifully small home network...

"Using study guides of any kind to replace hands-on work has a serious cost" is the message I wanted to convey. Sorry my hangups got in the way.

Setnaffa is an MCP-W2K (working on MCSE-W2K) with a few other certs, too...

 

[setnaffa]

BTW, sorry about the spam-like presence here; but I actually have updated my certs more often than my .sig here... MCSE 2000, MCSA 2003...

Certs are useful if your employer likes 'em--and mine goes through cycles.

Actually, Microsoft is now recommending the Test King as a test material. It was quite a surprise to discover that about a year ago.

I think a statement like that needs a link to a page at Microsoft to prove it...

Setnaffa is an MCSA-2k3 (working on MCSE-2k3) with a few other certs, too...

 

[dmbfanatpsu]

Well, I didn't take either test until I had 1+ years hands-on experience.

 

[Kaycek]

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Using study guides of any kind to replace hands-on work has a serious cost" is the message I wanted to convey. Sorry my hangups got in the way. [/Quote setnaffa]

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I agree with you about the hands on being better. I have found that I was able to get more hands on than our network through volunteer work -- for example the Literacy Program in my town was in need of assistance, and they were very happy to let me work with their network and machines, especially since it was free labor!

You didn't sound like you had a chip on your shoulder, you just sounded like the rest of us -- frustrated, because even though we know our stuff, we don't have the piece of sheepskin (in this case a certification) behind our names.

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I think a statement like that needs a link to a page at Microsoft to prove it... [/Quote setnaffa]

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I agree with you, and even went looking for the proof. I was told a year ago that Microsoft allowed the test kings (not the troy techs tho) by one of my instructors, unfortunately I haven't found the information in print to bring here to back up my statement :~/ I will find it and post it as soon as I can.

Considering that when I took my A+ test, I had someone wanting me to memorize all of the questions I could so I could give them that person (I never was so grateful that my memory fails when I'm stressed as I was then) Knowing people cheat makes me wonder if the person with the cert bragging memorized everything, and actually passed without knowing the certification subject...

Congrats setnaffa and dmbfantapsu on the certs you both have, also for taking time to really LEARN the subject matter first.

I don't see any thing wrong with using anything that we are legally allowed to use to study for the certifications as long as those study materials don't take away from actually performing the tasks.

I find it interesting, that the only time we as techs may not use any resources is when we take the certs At any other time we have bazillions of reference material available to check a problem. (of course the real-life problems are never as easy to solve as the cert test problems!)

Kaycek

 

[Kaycek]

Uhhh I did some more research, and found out that I was wrong about the testking being allowed. I apologize for feeding misinformation, I heard it from a co-worker, and when I questioned it more, I found out it was one of those "co-worker heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend, who heard it from..." statements.

I don't like to post or give misinformation, and I work very hard not to, I aplogize, and I think I will now take this co-worker's statements with a HUGE grain of salt