Need to convince someone

[jvdboom]

Hi,

Since I'm also in the webmaster team of my school, I can convince them maybe to run apache.
We have a very limited webspace on our ISP's server(10MB)
We had problems with the bandwitdh quota, however since we have a proxy we only used 41% of our quota in 30 days.
Port 80 is blocked but that's not a problem since it will work (hopefully) on a port like 45700 or something
The idea is to install it on the same server as the proxy server(main server)it also has IIS installed on port 8080(locally) I heard.
The managment might not like the idea, but they won't be there at the meeting next tuesday.Then it will be discussed.It would be nice that it will be avaible on the www, but it will be most likely an intranet server(because of the quota perhaps)and it will contain a copy of our site that is also on the webspace(well I can get more webspace)

Since we want to add some dynamic content (User-Oriënted Information) I can convice them that it do save bandwitdh.

 

[Cadwalader]

Why not just use an old junk (well, more old than junk) PC, put RedHat on it and use that as the webserver? Put 3 NIC's in it, one for the Intranet, and one for the Internet, and one for DNS/MAIL (I think that's how it goes) And if it is done that way, you won't be cooking bandwidth from internal requests.

What is the school's connection to the internet?

BTW, I have an old SIS530/5595 mobo with a P1 150MHz CPU on it, 64MB RAM, RedHat 7.3, text only server install. It's highest uptime is over a week (I had to move it to the UPS) but I've only had it up and running for 2 weeks. Just to show that's why *nix servers rule the Internet. Not only that, Apache is in it's native environment with *nix. I've had Apache on Windows 2000, it was ok, but sluggish.

Hope I was of some help...
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Thanks for the help...
--Rich

 

[jvdboom]

They have an cable connection the router/proxy/main server is at the end of the cablemodem.It haves win2000Server on it. Since it has multiple processors(win2000server supports that) and lots of Ram and HD ,it won't be sluggish at all.
However it seems that I can't convince them, not even for intranet. Meanwhile I'm looking for some free ad-free&perl installed apache hosts.
Anyway I'm also looking how you can install an apache network, (several webservers on different locations that hosts several sites)so that I don't have to run my pc 24/7

 

[Cadwalader]

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. For Intranet, bandwidth will be fine. If everythin is 100Mbps, you'll never know there were 900 other PC's using the same cables. Even if all of them were downloading "The Fast and the Furious". A cable connection is about 2 Mbps on a good day, at 3am on Christmas Morning (even at that, teh 2 Meg will be internmittent).

On my campus there are over 1000 PC's. Some of that is the old backbone (looks like co-ax), most of it is just 100BaseT (that is the 100Mbps). That network is nice and "snappy" internally, but whene an entire class is accessing the Internet, it can get sluggish.

With a descent router, you can configure what IP blocks can gain access to the internet. I can do it with mine for up to 253 PC's, and that is just a $70 4-port Linksys Cable/DSL Router (can be found at Circuit City, Best Buy, etc.). For maybe 2x that, you can get one that will handle class C ip's. I don't know if you'll need that kind of network hardware, it all depends on how many PC's you want to put online at the same time (less than 253? Get one like I have).

Let me know how it goes! And if you need more info, let me know, I'll give you URL's to more resources so you can let the Pro's do the convincing. Hope I was of some help...
--OR--
Thanks for the help...
--Rich