moving a wiring closet

[NiteSlayer]

I've been asked to relocate a wiring closet. It's in a new buliding they have cat5 already but they want cat5e now. A total of 30 drops will be required. my question is once I run all the new cat5e to the new closet. Where do I go from there?? How do I determine how and where to punch it all down? I know what you all are thinking. noobie right?!? I could really use the help thanks in advance.

 

[marylandcrab]

if this your 1st time.......I highly suggest you call in a technician......especially with cat5e......if you are unsure.....ESPECIALLY WITH A COMPUTER NETWORK........

 

[marylandcrab]

And by the way its........NEWBIE.......not noobie, but I will let you slide....

Mitch Taylor

http://www.getwiredbymitch.com

 

[Mongo5150]

For all of the cable runs you do, you will need a patch panel. I would HIGHLY recommend you do alot of research if you dont get a technician. Even if you do the research, will you know the local building codes? Will you know the details that only experience can give you? Do you have a cat 5 tester? Do you know the difference between cat5 and cat5e? Do you know the difference between cat5e (little e) and cat5e (big e)? Do your homework.

 

[daronwilson]

Well there is a wealth of information out there, one good book to consider is "Telecommunications cabling Installation" published by McGraw Hill and put together by BICSI. It is based on the BICSI Telecommunications Design and Distribution Methods manual which is based almost entirely on the EIA/TIA standards. To properly answer your question of 'how' would take pages. There are many sites on line that have some examples and information, though many are aimed at home type installations.

And of course you may find a variety of misinformation as well. In Oregon, the work you are talking about requires an electrical license, a contractors license, an electrical permit and an inspection. I don't know where you are, but you should certainly check on what the requirements are. Also check your liability insurance, if you are new at this and you happened to damage something or cause damage to the building you sure want to be covered. FYI, there is no reference in the EIA/TIA standards to more than one kind of Cat5e. Many vendors would like to sell you the hype of several different types. While there are differences in some of them, mainly the bandwidth that is available, the standards only recognize and define parameters for only one Category 5e cable.

Testing is of course another issue, a good wire scanner capable of testing your installation could be $5,000 or so. Without it, you cannot prove to the customer that you did the job correctly.

Lots to consider, good luck, please get the book or something similar before you start. Besides the above things there are fire codes to deal with and you certainly don't want to mess up in that area.

Good Luck!

It is only my opinion, based on my experience and education...I am always willing to learn, educate me!
Daron J. Wilson, RCDD
daron.wilson@lhmorris.com

 

[chiefred]

The other things to consider is whether you will need plenum or non-plenum---and is it a company that is leasing the office space or the owner of the building that is requesting the move?
The last question is more for if there is telecom equipment to be moved that is not owned by the company or the building owner. If there is and you move it--you now own the responsibility for it, forever!!!!

Regards and good luck
Chiefred

 

[Bobg1]

I think another question you need answered is where does the wiring closet get its feed from? If this is just a peer to peer group and all you need is a hub or switch, fine. If this needs to be fed from a resource somewhere else, where and how are you going to get that feed?
Does whoever is requesting this really understand what is required? What do they want to do that the existing cable can't handle? (cat5 vs cat5e) If these are just drops to the desktop, there will be no change in performance if you are just running 100bT.

 

[mikeydidit]

I know it sounds like these guys are kinda hard on you, but they are not. They are trying to make you aware that their is much more to this than throwing in a new cable and expect it to work. You may want to consider a company to come in and evaluate what you are trying to do. This will save you and your employer possible downtime and greif. If you are going to be responceable for taking care of this have it done right and you wont have problems.

Hope this helps, Mikey.

If you find any mistakes, please consider that they are there for a purpose. And everyone needs a purpose.
Mikey

 

[Headmaster]

I'll back up Mikey's statement...

I've learned the hard way that not having the proper equipment and knowledge will end up costing way more than hiring a pro... Plus, if this is a customer, they'll value you being honest. They'll hate you if you screw up. (My client did for a while...)

 

[skip555]

when I first started in business for myself I had a mentor. a guy in business in another town about a hour away when I got a job I didnt know how to do I would hire him to come do the job , I worked with him and learned

It was still my job and customer. I paid him the cusotmer paid me

that way I not only got the job done right next time I knew how.

you might want to consider doing something like that

 

[NiteSlayer]

Well thanks to the people who helpped in a nice way and no thanks to the people with rude things to say. I did my research and the job was done to code and passed with fling colors. The patch panel was great and easy. And it is noobie in the gaming world. But i guess marylandcrab has never been there. living up to the name crab. thanks all

 

[skip555]

niteslayer
I doubt that anyone really meant to be rude

glad the job went well and do come and hang out from time to time theres lots of good info here

 

[Grenage]

Aye, nobody here wanted to offend. It's newbie in the gaming world too though. It just got changed by children who started saying Nooob, and then noobie.

 

[mikeydidit]

This is a really great place to turn to for help. There is so much to this field, that no one person can know it all. Experience, I think, is one of the best tools you can have. Here you can get that for free from others who have been there and done that and are willing to help others. Just like you are now, all of us have had learn one way or another. Glad your project went well and most of all, you now have some experience.

If you find any mistakes, please consider that they are there for a purpose. And everyone needs a purpose.
Mikey