Moving a Merlin 410 to a new location 3

[retiredtelco]

I will be moving a Merlin 410 from one office to another. I have two questions. Will the controller loose programing if it is missing power for an hour? Second question, Merlin sets are fed from the controller using two pairs? Is this correct? Coming out of the controller at the station ports what is the pin out? Is it like the Partner, dial tone on the middle pair and data on the outside pair?

 

[Dexman]

The ATL sets used with Classic Merlin telephone systems use all 4 pairs of wires. If you terminate using a 568B configuration, you should not have any problems.

I know that Feature Pack modules have a built in battery to keep that programming intact. I don't think that the main control unit itself has one.

Given that the 410 has long since been discontinued and is no longer supported by Avaya, an upgrade to a Partner ACS might be worth it.

If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet.

 

[merlinman]

As I said on a previous post, Upgrade to a LEGEND, - - Cheap Hardware, Available EVERYWHERE, and now you have something you can trouble shoot.

But, if you want to keep struggling.....

http://home.comcast.net/~merlinman

 

[merlinman]

In response to your "loose programming" question, most likely it will. That is, if you have a FP-1 or an FP-2.

The batteries are probably totally SHOT!

Good Luck....

http://home.comcast.net/~merlinman

 

[dagwoodsystems]

Sadly, I just "recycled" thirteen Merlin 410 units that I had in the garage for years. I hadn't had a call about those in such a long time that I thought it made sense to do so. The ONLY reason I was keeping them around is because I used to get calls periodically from folks like you. Rather than re-soldering on those funky batteries, I'd simply offer to send someone a new 410 chassis.

I too suspect that you will lose programming. However, I can offer to send you a Merlin 410 programming manual if you wish. Those things take five seconds to program. You'll find many ways to reach me from my website.

Tim Alberstein

http://www.dagwoodsystems.com

 

[retiredtelco]

I hear you on the upgrade. The customer does not want to spend the money. I can only hope that at some point he will upgrade.

 

[tdaugirdas]

Then - you can buy a new battery for the Feature cartridge - believe it or not - they still sell them. They are available at Sandman.com and probably other places like Refurb Supplies. You would then need to disassemble the Feature pack module - desolder the old battery and solder in a new one (just two solder joints - one for plus and one for minus).

Tom Daugirdas,
President
STCG, Inc.
stcg.com

 

[retiredtelco]

Using the 568B RJ45 at the controller, what would the pin out be at the 103A connecting block. I searched the internet and I think I have it, but if someone knows it or can lead me to a site with the wiring scheme I would appreciate it. I think it is Pin 1 W/BL of cable to BL/W of block, Pin 2 BL/W to BL, Pin 3 W/OR to WH, Pin 4 OR/W to YL, Pin 5 W/GR to RD, Pin 6 GR/W to BLK, Pin 7 W/BR to BR/W, Pin 8 BR/W to BR

 

[Dexman]

Are you thinking about something like this

http://dslab.lzu.edu.cn/downloads/howto/568avb.html

Look at section 7.0

If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet.

 

[TouchToneTommy]

A "103-A Connecting Block" is just a Cat-3, 8-pin, 568-B jack. Inside, it has a 4-pair 110 connecting block. Although you cut your I/W down in order (Wht/Blu, Blu/Wht, Wht/Orn, Orn/Wht, Wht/Grn, Grn/Wht, Wht/Brn, Brn/Wht), the jack pins come out Wht/Orn, Orn/Wht, Wht/Grn, Blu/Wht, Wht/Blu, Grn/Wht, Wht/Brn, Brn/Wht.

If you simply wire to "Cat-5" standards, using wiring pattern "568-B" at both ends, you will be able to plug a phone in at the workstation end, and use a Patch Cord to go from the Control Unit to the jack at the wiring field end.

Now, I thought you were "retiredtelco" - shouldn't you already know these things?

 

[retiredtelco]

Sorry, pal at AT&T we used the 258A standard

 

[cvrbob]

At AT&T 258A was not a a standard, , it was an male adapter for (6 ) RJ45 4 pair jacks ( which is wired 568B ) to a 25 pair cable or As TTT the same 6 103A connecting blocks