A couple thoughts to throw in. Make sure you don't have any of your "Wake On..." options turned on. Like Wake On Lan, Wake On Modem etc. I think Wake On Lan is one of the dumber options, since on most networks there is always activity. Another time-consuming method of troubleshooting shutdown issues is to run msconfig, go to the startup tab and disable 3 options at a time, then try shutting down at least 2 times. Don't disable the systray though. <br>On another note, I seem to recall a TechNet document addressing this problem, but don't recall the document number. do a search on technet.<br><br>Brian