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Looking to move overseas ... where to go 4

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AP81

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Apr 11, 2003
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Hi,

I am looking to relocate overseas and was wondering where are the hot IT areas at the moment?

I've been told Ireland is the place to go.

Adam

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Considering that this site is enjoyed by people from all over the world and that "overseas" is a term relative to your point of origin, you might want to tell us where you are now.




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Australia.

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IT is good in Ireland at the moment (I'm in Dublin) .... but you might find the weather an issue !!! :)

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I've heard from friends (take that for what you will) that Canada is pretty good as well.
 
Interestingly people keep telling me that Australia is the way to go. Not that I guess this helps you much!

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Interesting. I remember hearing 5-7 years ago that Ireland was a hot place to go too, to the point where I considered moving there. I would have thought that it had dropped off some since then.

Any idea what it makes it so hot?
 
Thanks for the valuable input.

I find that Australia is quite dull and jobs that pay around the $60K mark are paying in the $80 - $100K+ mark in other countries (esp. Ireland).

Ireland was #1 on my list. I have a friend in Ireland that keeps telling me that IT jobs in Ireland pay up to 2x more and in Euros, i.e. Aus = AUD $60K, Ireland = Euros $100K.
I've always liked Canada, so I will definitely look into it.

Some experience outside of Australia would also be beneficial for me in the long run (never worked outside of Australia) and I'd like to move forward and expand.

Thanks for your input.





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For cripes sake don't look at just the salary.
Cost of living is a big thing. You may find plenty of Job's in london for example paying 50k - 100k, but when you looking at 500k+ for a modest house, doesn't seem to good does it?

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Stu.. 2004
 
Yep ... Dublin suffers badly from House Prices (saw a New Built 5 bed Semi = 1.95 million Euros)

The West is giving good incentives for moving there See Here

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You definitely have to look at the cost of living as it relates to where you're coming from and going to. This should apply not just when you're moving between countries, but even moves within a single country to a different geographic area. The cost of living in New York or Los Angeles is several times what it costs to live in Indianapolis, or Columbus.

I'm not 100% sure where you'd get the data when you're looking internationally, but within the US you can usually check US census data or with the local Chamber of Commerce, and they will provide you with the average cost of living as a percentage relative to the national average. Sometimes they can break it down even more into individual expenses like housing, education, food, utilities, etc.

One other thing to check is the tax rates for that country/state/region. Some of the US states have no personal income taxes, while others do. That can be a big difference. I know that some European countries also have much higher tax rates than the US (though some would argue that you get more back in the form of government benefits, which could offset some of that money lost to taxes).
 

If your work can be done remotely via net commuting and if you're not afraid of self employment, the best option IMHO is to settle in a country with a very cheap cost of living and work for clients based in rich countries.

That's what I plan to do in the future.
 
Funnily enough, I moved from England to Australia (Brisbane) - stayed for 3 years and moved back. Had some interesting jobs, but found the job hunting to be a bit, erm, 'awkward' as a skilled migrant determind to stay in IT. Great times though.
 
Thanks all for your opinions.

It really isn't something you can take a punt and hope it all works out. I never factored in the cost of living and taxes and was chasing the $$$.

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