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WhiteTiger

WhiteTiger

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This reguards Flash...but in the lisence agreement, it says your allowed 1 installation, to be used on 1 computer...

Well, Terminal Services on Windows 2k allows a client, to run software that is on our server...installation being run, and used on the server.

So would it be legal for me to use my 1 copy of flash, and install it on a server, and have people access it through terminal services? It still stays within the lisence. I'm sure macromedia wouldn't be too happy about it, but would it be legal?...because if so, I might be able to find a way around a lot of things by using terminals and having 1 lisence. Such other things are Photoshop, and Adobe Indesign...not to rip the company off, but my marketing coordinator uses the same software all the time. Regards,
Anth:cool:ny
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Does is say anything about number of USER ACCESS?
 
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My place of employment needs more than 1 person to be able to use flash, but we dont want to transfer it to computers all the time.

Regards,
Anth:cool:ny
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""(a) Install and use the Software on a single computer; OR install and store the Software on a storage device, such as a network server, used only to run or install the Software on your other computers over an internal network, provided you have a license for each separate computer on which the Software is installed or run from the storage device. A license for the Software may not be shared or used concurrently on different computers.""

Heres my question about this...we would not be using flash on different computers at the same time...we would be using it on a terminal...but viewing the terminal from a workstation...1 lisence, 1 instance running on 1 computer.
So...would it be possible without legal worries? Regards,
Anth:cool:ny
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I think it would be legal just because you wont be able to have multiple ppl using it at one time.
 
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well, the thing is, we might have people using it FROM different computers, but the one instance, is being used on the server...and only VIEWED from terminals. Regards,
Anth:cool:ny
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WHY DON"T YOU CALL THEM AND ASK THEM?..YOU POSTED THIS QUESTION 4 DAYS AGO AND NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE YOUR ANSWER..AND YOU HAVE STILL YET TO SOLVE IT..WOULDN"T YA THINK IT WOULD BE WISE AND LESS TIME CONSUMING TO JUST GIVE THEM A CALL?.

obviously no one here is a internet lawyer!!

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It seems quite obvious to me that they would not want multiple persons using the program in any way shape or form. Every time you share the software in any way the company loses the cost of the software x the number of people sharing. You can try to get around it or find out what is legal if you like but a little common sense applies here if you care to use it.

I know people do it everyday and hackers have unlock programs all over the internet but that does not make it ethical or right just because it is available.

Honesty is still the best policy... not always an easy choice regretfully... Ya' Gotta Love It!
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the only situation where it is ok to run software on mulitple systems is in school..i know my collage uses the same software for the entire network in our mac lab..but that would be (i think) the only situation where it is allowed..and that was purchased strictly for that use..and there is a different set of circumstances according to that situation..but it is understood through the deal made with the software company that it is being used for a learning facility..

but if all else fails "PICK UP THE PHONE!"
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carlsatterwhite@orlandomediasolutions.com
 
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someone get the guy a quarter... or is it 35 cents now? 50 cents? payphones keep going up so I lost track.

Actually its probably a toll free call... Ya' Gotta Love It!
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I've asked...thank you very much virt. No one there seemed to know. Thankfully you did provide at least a little help about the school situation...it helps provide me more of a stance on if I should do it or not...

And virt...calm down...sheesh. Your gonna have a heart attack if you keep getting all excited around me like that. Regards,
Anth:cool:ny
 
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college with a "e" i meant..

and anthony you mean to tell me that you called macromedia and they could not give you an answer?..

ok guys and gals this is where i have to draw the line with mr 17 year old web desinging anthony..throughout his time here i notice that most of his post are the most rediculous things a professional would have to ask without researching the answer to first..believe me i was the same way at first when i came here..but after dealing with old, dave, and others i learned to seek out the answer my self first then come here for help..now, if he means to tell us that he called macromedia and they had no answer to a question regarding the multiple use of there own software, this is where i say his post are crap..and would probably be a waste of time even reading..and from now on i will not..seems to me he comes here to be apart of something..which is cool, he's ambitious..but please anthony don't waste no one's time..get busy learning and become a critical thinker..you will benefit from it tremendously..and if you guys start paying attention a little more to his post hopefully you will get what i am saying..
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carlsatterwhite@orlandomediasolutions.com
 
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Sorry Anthony, but there is absolutely no way you would receive an answer like that from Macromedia (or any other company for that matter). Licensing issues like this are one of the first things companies define before even releasing software, and this seems to be a very simple issue, probably even common.

I would stick my neck out and say that you wouldn't be fully licensed to do as you propose without paying a multi-license fee, albeit you'll probably get a discount. I've worked in many Architects and Engineers offices over the years, and they are an ideal scenario for multi-licensing, but they still have to pay per-person, not per-installment.

In fact....(reading).... :

Paragraph 2(a) of Macromedia Flash Licensing agreement states:

"...Install and use the Software on a single computer; OR install and store the Software on a storage device, such as a network server, used only to run or install the Software on your other computers over an internal network, provided you have a license for each separate computer on which the Software is installed or run from the storage device. A license for the Software may not be shared or used concurrently on different computers...."

I think that says it all. ;-)

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I know you quoted that at the top, but the final sentence:

A license for the Software may not be shared or used concurrently on different computers

....answers your own questions ;-)

dave
dave@pinkzeppelin.com

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I REALIZE that it says it cannot be used concurrently on DIFFERENT computers. But it isn't. Its being used from the server, and VIEWED on a server from a terminal...I guess thats why macromedia couldn't answer...it was just a stupid tech, I'm sure he wouldn't know anything too detailed like that. I'd probably have to speak to their lawyers...that sux.

Thats the point of my post as well...they constantly mention 'different computers' and things like that. Well...its NOT different computers! Its 1! Its just being viewed by terminals. Regards,
Anth:cool:ny
 
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I guess thats why macromedia couldn't answer...it was just a stupid tech, I'm sure he wouldn't know anything too detailed like that. I'd probably have to speak to their lawyers...that sux.

right..this is not true and you know it..
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