Learning Java -- Getting Discouraged -- Help Please.. 1

[DeanConsulting]

Hello all,

I have several hours and several hundred dollars invested in learning Java. I am starting to get discouraged because allot of people and fellow programmers are telling me to run from Java. Why is this? Is there something wrong with Java that I am not aware of?

Any comments or words of encouragement are greatly, I mean greatly, appreciated here.

Thanks and God bless,
Noble


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Noble D. Bell

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[sedj]

>>>> programmers are telling me to run from Java. Why is this ?

I have no idea - ask them ! Let me guess ... they are .net guys yeah ?

I can't speak for everywhere, but in the South West of the UK, Java is still a language in demand. Our company has about 50 developers, 20 or so are Java, 30 or so are Oracle, and there are about 5 C/C++ developers.

Personally, I programme mainly in Java and C/C++ and I also know enough C# that *if Java demand died* I could transfer to C# - but thats probably true of any Java developer worth any salt.

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[timw]

Hi Noble. There's nothing inherently wrong with Java as a language as far as I can see. There seems to be a long established tendency in computing for 'mine is better than yours' attitudes. Maybe this explains the comments from these people. I don't know them, so I can't say

I enjoy developing with Java, as I'm sure many of the regular MVPs to this forum do too. I also take comfort that, as a Java programmer, my skills will transfer readily to C# should that ever become necessary.

When you take OO programming seriously, you tend to develop practices and techniques which transcend the language in question anyway, I think. (Knowledge and experience of 'design patterns' for example). These will probably stand you in good stead should you switch your main language skills in the future.

I would just say, "be the best Java (or any language) programmer you can be". Leave those other guys to waste their energies at trying to be 'pundits' and hold your course. When you change, change for your reasons, not theirs.

And good luck.

Tim

 

[chrissie1]

Is java going to stay? Most likely.
Is it good? No doubt.

What will be more important in the future? If I knew I would say.
Patterns and design strategies are more important then any language and Java with J2EE are a good place to start, a lot better then what MS has to offer untill now.

So stick with it, it's fun.



Christiaan Baes
Belgium

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[DeanConsulting]

Thanks everyone. I have been getting people telling me to use stuff like Ruby, Python, and one very strong person telling me to use SmallTalk.

I just want to develop shareware and do hobby stuff so I feel like Java will fit that bill just fine. I am forced to use C# at my day job.

nb


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Noble D. Bell

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http://www.noblebell.com

 

[sedj]

In that case I would stick with Java if you like it.

Python is very popular, and I believe Ruby is becoming so too, but you should stick with what you feel compfortable.

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