latest patches corrupt files - please help

[BernardStewart]

I have just downloaded and installed all the latest XP security patches and IE7.

I now have two problems:-

Firstly, I now get an alert saying:-
"Windows - corrupt file C:\ $Secire is corrupt and unreadable. Please run the CHKDSK utility"

I have run CHDSK on reboot and all is clear yet this still pops up demaning another run on reboot.
Also, there is no file or directory of this name.
Any ideas?

Second, I cannot now print from my HP Laserjet 4.
Says the print driver is missing or corrupt.
When I try and use the printer add wizard all goes well until the end when it finally says "printer drivers not installed"

I have tried pointing to the XP installation disc but still no joy - any ideas?

Many thanks

 

[BernardStewart]

With a little help from Microsoft have resolved this.
The IE7 patch does not like to have Norton AV running whilst it is being installed and this causes a corruption. The normal checkdisk utility does not detect and repair this fault.

The problem is that this means disabling it whilst it is download.

Step 1 - uninstall IE7
Step 2 - using XP disc boot and select repair - this loads recovery console.
Step 3 - at prompt type CHKDSK /r
The corrupt file/segments are sorted out
Step 4 - one can then reinstall the printer drivers.

So far so good!

 

[bcastner]

Could you telll me exactly what this is?
corrupt file C:\$Secire

Because I do not believe it is a Windows file. While having anyvirus software active during an IE 7 installation is not a good idea, it certainly is not going to cause hard disk corruption; rather, a failed IE 7 installation.

And file "C:\ $Secire" or file "C:\$Secire" or file "C:\ $Secure" or file "C:\$Secure" were not part of the November patches, and are not part of the IE 7 installatiion package.


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[linney]

Sounds like there was corruption in the MFT files?


NTFS Metadata files

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kb.../AdminTips/FileSystems/NTFSMetadatafiles.html

11. NTFSFiles: $Secure (9)

http://www.linux-ntfs.org/content/view/108/47#file_secure

 

[bcastner]

Yes but from the November patches and/or IE 7?

You really need special permissions to modify NTFS medata files. I am not even sure it can be done from within the OS.

And the last query: I have never seen a program use, need, modify, attach, or in any way handle Security descriptors on a file. This metadata item $Secure is essentially a backwards compatability device to avoid taking room in the MFT storing a security descriptor for every file handle. I have never seen it used, but I guess it must be. There surely was no reason for IE 7 or the Security Hotfixes to worry about a security descriptor.




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[BernardStewart]

Sorry it was a typo - it was "Secure"

not sure whether it was the security updates or IE7 but uninstalling IE7 and using the recovery console chkdsk /r did the trick.

So am not really clear exactly what happened. Microsoft believe it was running Norton at the same time that may have caused it.
I don't want to disable Norton Internet Security whilst on line.
So the question is, can one download these patches without installing them and then later when off-line install them to avoid these conflicts?

 

[bcastner]

Yes.

You would use the Windows Catalogue method to obtain Hotfixes. Tutorial:

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Windows-Update-Catalog.html

Internet Explorer 7 is available for download:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

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[BernardStewart]

that was very helpful bcastner.

Pity Microsoft in my 3 hour telephone trouble shoot did not mention this when I said I did not want to disable Norton whilst downloading IE7

 

[bcastner]

Norton is a special case because they have publicly said that they do not support IE 7 at the moment. There has been no announcement of plans for formal support that I have seen. From what I have seen of issues in the newsgroups the problems that arise are scripting failures. Other antivirus programs have reported interaction problems as well, with the problem mostly seen in installation failures and the installer reverting the system back to IE 6.

The whole issue of (bad) interactions between IE 7 installation and antivirus and antitrojan software has been well documented. The IE 7 Team Blog at Microsoft, for example, wrote of their experience:

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/11/IE7-Installation-and-Anti_2D00_Malware-Applications.aspx

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[weasleman42]

I have had these same errors without any antivirus installed on a Dell Latitude D620, so I would rule out antivirus as the root cause. I hope Microsoft comes out with some help about this soon.

 

[bcastner]

The newsgroup show that Zone Alarm 6.5 is an IE 7 installation killer.


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[weasleman42]

My install was without antivirus and a firewall, but I did have Windows Defender, if that makes any difference.

 

[dlano]

I'm experiencing this issue due to an IE7 installation. Are there any updates on how to fix this issue?

Thanks,

dao

 

[linney]

Nothing new is appearing in Google, you can have a bit of a look if you like.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=$Secure is corrupt and unreadable+ie7&rls=com.microsoft

http://www.google.com/search?q=$Secure+is+corrupt+and+unreadable+ie7&rls=com.microsoft