Java and E-commerce

[Guest_imported]

If I want to go into web development, do I need to learn to write my own java scripts? I've read about all of these free applets that are available on the web, but, haven't had a lot of luck with the "free" ones, wherever they might be. I've downloaded JDK2, but, can't figure out what in the heck I'm supposed to do next. I tried to write the Hello World applet, but, it's not flyin'. I've gotten a couple of books, but, still don't get it. Do I need to persever and get it down, somehow, or, will I be able to get along in E-commerce without it? Would I be better off delving into XML, for instance? I've got some VB experience, Access, and HTML, PhotoShop, as well as exposure to a wide variety of web development technologies, like IIS, MTS, and FrontPage. What do you think? Do I need to choke down Java, or can I get along with free applets? What's the deal?

 

[mbdw6708]

You have asked the same question I have been dealing with. I have been using free javascript off the web for right now. After I paste it into my website and I start to tweek it, I have noticed I have begun to learn it anyway. I am not sure exactly what you want to do with Java Script but I do know there is a lot of script out there. Go to

http://www.supplychaintoday.com

and look under the Web Development sections and you will find links to free java sites and news on XML.
I have been using FrontPage but switching to DreamWeaver Ultradev because it is more widely accepted in the web development community. Feel free to e-mail me, seems like we are both in the same phases so we could give each other lots of tips. Have a good one.
DW
Dave.Waters@asu.edu

http://www.supplychaintoday.com

 

[sliptdisk]

Yeah, I have supplychain bookmarked - just haven't had much of a chance to explore it. I will definitely take advantage of your suggestion. Sounds like a good idea.

 

[mbdw6708]

http://www.24fun.com/

is a website that offers free java script. Before I did any type of web development I was always amazed at the way many of my friends HomePages looked. Now after I started looking at their code I realize most of them cut and paste java. Why re-invent the wheel. I am trying to get better at Perl and that seems to be a bit harder than Javascript. Have a great day.
dave

http://www.supplychaintoday.com

 

[sliptdisk]

Thanks. I'll check it out. If you have any ideas about the posts I have in the Access or VB forums, please feel free to contribute.

Dan

 

[jnicho02]

A small point of order... Java scripts != Javascripts
Remember that the name 'Javascript' was used by Netscape for their browser-based scripting language in order to ride on the back of Sun's 'Java' programming language.

Java is an industrial strength Object Oriented programming language. People's initial exposure over the web will be via applets that tend to be slow as they have to be downloaded. With the introduction of Servlets and Java Server Pages (JSP) the use of Java in web applications will be considerably faster. These technologies have a number of security and safety features that mean that they use system resources far better than other manufacturers software.

The latest trend is for Application Servers (IBM WebSphere, BEAWebLogic, Enhydra) which have much of the 'nuts and bolts' of e-business already set up.

Java and Application Servers will now start becoming a must if you are serious about programming e-business.

If you don't have the resources to get into these two technologies then learning DreamWeaver and then XML will be of help in the very near future.

 

[sliptdisk]

That sounds like quite excellent advice. Thank you. I don't know anything about Dreamweaver, but, we did some work with MTS and IIS in my webmaster class. I'm going to check out the dreamweaver website and go from there.

Dan
(AKA The artist formerly known as budding webmaster)

 

[sliptdisk]

Now, after rereading these posts, I see that I have quite alot of work to do. I did get to learn a little about MS Transactions Server, Site Server, and Info Server in my CIW class. But, I can see that I need to start spending alot of time learning Java, learning how to do servlets, and, XML. The concentration of high tech industry, whereI live, is very low, relative to the number of grads that the local university pumps out. So, I imagine that I'll probably have to settle for doing some database programming (VB/Access) for a living until I can get competent enough in those technologies that you've mentioned, and I have the money to get to Austin, NYC, or Atlanta, where they need people. Thanks for the good advice. I'll put it to good use.

Dan

(That was me logging on as budding webmaster, until I got registered here)

 

[Guest_imported]

I own a web development firm named ClaspOne, and we specialize in the Java programming of web-based applications. My lead developer could clearly offer a lot of real-world insight into what it takes to do the job well. He is incredibly well-versed in the area, and he's a would be a great resource to anyone looking to go into Java. He is also an expert in JSP and XML. Contact me if you have some questions for him. If you would like, contact my company through our website, ClaspOne.com, and my developer(s) would be happy to get back to you with some info.

 

[sliptdisk]

Wow. Thanks. I certainly appreciate the offer, ClaspOne. I'll check out your website and contact you, again.

 

[sliptdisk]

ClaspOne, I had wanted to contact you via your website, but, was unsure as to whom to address my email. I can tell by looking at it that your company is the kind I'd like to work for. I'm especially interested in developing web apps that have financial and/or international issues to contend with (I've studied several languages and know that websites need to have multilingual content, for example). I live in a part of the South that has a very low concentration of hi-tech industry, and, would like to relocate. I understand from coworkers that the Boston area I.T. market is expanding, and, have always thought that I'd enjoy living there. Would you or any of your developers have any thoughts on what the job market might be like for me, there?

Dan

 

[Guest_imported]

Dan,
My company is expanding and looking for quality tech talent. We are located in Watertown, 2 miles outside Boston. The Boston hi tech marketplace is exploding. The area is running out of space to fit all the new startups. Boston itself is a hi tech area, but we have two additional sectors which are experiencing a huge boom. They are known to Bostonians as 128 and 495. (named after the highways that run through them) Essentially, any area within 30 miles of Boston has a huge demand for tech talent, including my firm. Keep in touch

Adam McGowan, CEO of ClaspOne

 

[Guest_imported]

I think it's a good idea to learn Java. The company which I'm working for is Using Oracle databases, IBM WebSphere web server and Java Server Pages (JSP's). I think it's cool to use these tools to create an e-commerce site. By the way, we are one of the .com companies.

So ppl, if you feel like creating a chat program, a client/server software, I think Java is the answer.

 

[mbdw6708]

Kingtawa,
Can you elaborate a little more how to make a chat program from Java. I want to put a chat program and a discussion board on my website. I have put a discussion board on my website but I need a better one. I have not figured out how to put a chat program on the website yet. Thanks.
Dave

http://www.supplychaintoday.com

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[sliptdisk]

That's good advice, kingtawa, thanks. Apparently, I had had something go awry in the downloading of jdk, but, I'm reinstalling it, tonight, and, am very anxious to get started. [sig][/sig]

 

[Guest_imported]

Dear Dave,

To create a chat program you need two types of program, one for the servcer side, and another for the client side. For the server, you can write a servlet, that will manage everything such as creating a room, letting ppl to join in and so on. The client side program, can be an applet, that should be downloaded upon request. The applet should be able to communicate with the servlet, and vice versa. I think you can find some down-to-earth basic tutorial or samples in the net. Try Google at

http://www.google.com

for the search of programs called chatserver.java and chatclient.java. With these examples, I think you can have a good headstart.