ISM Increase - Sysload or not? 3

[telebub]

Anyone ever find a document or have something hard coded that lets you know what ISM parameters can be increased without a sysload?

I've read through a lot of threads on here about this and some of the common themes are:

decreasing ISMs require sysload
sysload is only required when adding features or packages
increasing ISMs do not require sysload (I added a keycode for ACD Agent Licenses on an 81c once and it DID require a sysload. That was on Release 25)

I'm specifically asking about AST in this instance. Can someone definitively say whether adding 30 AST licenses will require sysload? I don't think it will but I can't find anything definitive.

 

[telebub]

BTW, This would be on an 81c running Release 6.0.

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

I always thought that anything added on in ISM except packages was OK to do without a sysload.

However any decreases would usually require one.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[Firebird Scrambler]

This info is old below.

Instant ISM Upgrade Feature Operation
Feature operation is further broken down into three options:
Instant ISM parameter upgrade using a keycode diskette for large systems
Instant ISM parameter upgrade for Option 11C

Instant ISM parameter upgrade using a keycode diskette/or large systems
For options 51C, 61C, 81, and 81C systems, perform the following to instantly activate a
keycode without a Sysload:
Note: For a dual-CPU (redundant) system, leave the system in full redundant mode (hard
disk and CPU redundancy).

1. Log in on a system terminal and load overlay 143.
LD 143
CCBROOO
2. Insert the new keycode diskette into the floppy drive on the active IODU/C.
3. Enter the KDIF command and select keycode comparison options.
.KDIF REC FO
The new keycode option is shown in bold.
Note: In the following example, the (REC) currently used keycode will be compared with
the new keycode disk in floppy drive FO. The limits shown are for example purposes only.
Validating Keycode File /p/install/keycode.rec ... OK

Validating Keycode File /fO/keycode.kcd ... OK
System parameters 1st keycode: 2nd keycode:
System Serial Number: 46XX 46XX
Software Version: 2911 2911
System Type: Option 61C Option 61C
Call Processor: CP68060E CP68060E
Release: 24 24
issue: XX XX
NTI Order Number:
NT SDID-1:
NT SDID-2:

Date and Time of Manufacture:
Note: () indicates that information is not available
ISM Limits in the 1 st keycode: 2nd keycode:
Loop Limit: 32 32
Sys TNs Limit: 2000 3500
ACDAgt Limit: 10 10
ACD DNs Limit: 10 10
AST Limit: 10 10
Common packages for both keycodes:
0-2 4-5 7-25 28-29 32-55 58-65
Additional packages in the 2nd keycode:
Additional packages in the 2nd keycode:
4. Select the new keycode for activation using the KNEW command.
.KNEW FO
If the new keycode is eligible for instant activation (which is the case in the above example
since only the TN limits has increased!) it will be activated without further user action, and
the following system message is given:
CCBR020 New Keycode accepted and activated successfully. Sysload is NOT needed!
Otherwise, if the keycode is not eligible for instant activation, a Sysload is needed to
activate the new keycode and the following system message is given:
CCBR009 New Keycode accepted. It will be activated during the next restart.








Instant ISM parameter upgrade for Option 11C

For option 11C systems, perform the following to instantly activate a keycode without a
Sysload:
1. Log in and load overlay 143
>LD143
CCBROOO
2. Enter the UPGRADE command.
. UPGRADE
The 'Software Installation Main Menu' is displayed:
SOFTWARE INSTALLATION PROGRAM
Verify Security ID: XXXXXXXX
Software Installation Main Menu:
1. New Install or Option 11/1 IE Upgrade - from Software Daughterboard
2. System Upgrade
3. Utilities
4. New System Installation - From Software Delivery Card
[qjuit, [previous, [m]ain, [h]elp or [?], <cr> - redisplay
Enter Selection:
3. Enter 2 for the 'System Upgrade' option.
The 'Select type of upgrade to be performed' menu is displayed.
Select type of upgrade to be performed:
1.Option 11/11E to Option 11C
2. Option 11C New Software Upgrade
3. Option 11C Feature/Parameter Upgrade
[q]uit, [previous, [m]ain, [h]elp or [?], <cr> - redisplay
4. Enter 3 for the 'Option 11C Feature/Parameter Upgrade' option
Note: The following questions require information from the Keycode data sheet.
Please have it available.



5. Indicate that the current Feature Sets and/or Packages will remain the same by selecting
'n' to the following requests.
Do you wish to change feature sets? (y/n/[a]bort): N
Keeping Current Feature Set.
Do you wish to add packages? (y/n/[a]bort): N
The current ISM Parameters are printed to the TTY.

6. The ISM parameters shown below are a sample configuration only.
Current ISM Parameters :
TNS (200)
AGNT (10)
ACDN(IO)
AST(10)
DSL (10)

7. Do you wish to change any ISM parameters? (y/n/[a]bort):


8. In response to the prompt 'Do you wish to change any ISM parameters? (y/n/[a]bort):'
enter Y.

9. The ISM parameters are prompted in sequence. Change the ISM parameters
appropriately, according to the new keycode:
The I5M parameters shown below are a sample configuration only.
Enter new ISM parameters:
TNS(200)-400
AGNT(10)-11
ACDN(10)-10
AST (10)-10
DSL (10) -10


10. After all ISM parameters have been prompted, the new ISM parameters are displayed
and the prompt 'Is this correct?' appears. Enter Y to continue.



11. New ISM Parameters:
TNS (400)
AGNT (11)
ACDN (10)
AST(10)
DSL(10)

12. Is this correct? (y/n/[a]bort):

13. Enter Y-if the new ISM parameters are correct. If not, select N and reconfigure the ISM
parameters.
The system will display the Security ID and Current AUX ID.

14. Security ID: XXXXXXXX
Current AUX ID : XXXXXXXX
Do you wish to change the AUX ID? (y/n/[a]bort):

15. In response to the prompt 'Do you wish to change the AUX ID?' enter N
16. An upgrade summary is displayed. In response to the prompt 'Is this correct?' enter Y
to continue. -
17. Ensure that the new ISM limit is shown. In this example the AGNT ISM limit was
changed from 10 -11 and TNS were change from 200 - 400. The system will display:
TNS: 200 400
AGNT: 1011
Is this correct? (y/n/[a]bort):
18. Select Y and the system will prompt to enter the keycode.
19. Enter new keycodes:
Key l
Key 2
Key 3
20. Enter the new keycode. The keycode consists of three keycode strings: Key 1, Key2, and
Key 3. Enter each string and press return. If the keycodes are entered properly, the system
will display:
21. Keycode validation successful.

Are you sure you wish to perform the upgrade? (y/n/[a]bort):

22. In response to 'Are you sure you wish to perform the upgrade?' enter Y

If the new keycode is correct for instant activation, it will be activated without further user
action, and the following message is given:
Upgrade was completed and activated successfully. Sysload is NOT needed!

If the keycode is not eligible for instant activation, a Sysload is needed to activate the new
keycode and the following message is given:

Upgrade was completed successfully. Initiate a Sysload to activate the upgrade.



All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian 1 / Succession and BCM / Norstar Programmer in the UK

http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbromley

If it's working, then leave it alone!.

 

[telebub]

Thanks Firebird. I'm going with sysload not needed in this case. If it turns out needing one, I'll provide update.

 

[KiwiOz07]

Hi Telebub,
I have added AST's several times on Rls 5,5.5 & 7.5 without sysload.

 

[KCFLHRC]

The switch will tell you whether it is required or not. Typically an increase will not require a sysload but I have seen a few, depending on what you are adding, that do need a sysload on an ISM increase. Never found any real rhyme or reason to it.

 

[telebub]

Thanks Kiwi.

KC, I'm with you. I know it tells you afterwards, but I want to know well ahead of time for scheduling or engineering purposes. Like you, I've performed several ISM increases and most do not require a sysload. Like I said previously, I've increased ACD Agents in the past and it DID require a sysload. Good to know Kiwi has performed several AST increases with no issue.

 

[bhassell2000]

I have not had to sysload after any ISM changes in a long time. i think the one time I did do it was a mistake

Thanks,

Buddy

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[monkey101]

you can add with ism with out reload and after rls 7.0 you can decrease without reload as well now. I have done it serveral times. There use to be a dos tool that nortel put out that you would put new and old keycode in and it would tell you if you needed a sysload or not I just can't remmeber the name of it. Since it doesnt work on win 7 i dont have it anymore.