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inusrat

inusrat

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Hi,

I know for image we use keywords for "alt" and "title". i saw someone doing the following, is this a good idea or search engine will consider it a spam. I have not seen this practice very often so just wanted to make sure

<a href=" title="Matrimonial Match Making">

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very important for accessibility reasons, because screen readers (audio browsers) use the title and alt attributes and read it out to the user. It is also useful for visitors using mainstream browsers as it can give an extra description of what the linked page is about.
Regulations are in place in many countries for some websites to be accessibility compliant.

The image alt attribute is used by the SEs algo only when the image is a link.

some accessibilty resources.


Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
A website that proves the cobblers kids adage.
Nightclub counting systems
 
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The [tt]title[/tt] attribute in an <a> element (or any other element for that matter) allows you to write a tooltip for a link (or whatever). The text will appear when the cursor is over the link text.

If you think tooltips will add to the visitor's experience at your site, use them. This sort of thing will probably just irritate them:
Code: 
<a href="[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.zawaj.com/php/index.php"[/URL] title="Matrimonial Match Making">Matrimonial Match Making</a>
Either way, I don't think search engines will take much notice.


-- Chris Hunt
 
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Hi,

Is this true that you do not need to submit your website for optimization on all the engines?. If you have submitted it to Google or yahoo, others just get all the information about you from their directories.

Secondly everytime you make changes to your website for optimization do you need to submit again to search engine?, or if you have already done it once,thats all you need. It will wil updated automatically when your turn comes.

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you do not need to submit your website to any search engines at all, You submit to directories. Get some links to your site (like a signature from a forum) and the SE crawlers will find you.
They will then crawl your site on a regular basis, the frequency and crawl depth will vary but it will be at least monthly for most engines.

No resubmitting needed at all, anywhere, ever.

to be in the Google directory you need to be in DMOZ (don't hold your breath)
and to be in the Yahoo directory you need to open your wallet! (as with most things Yahoo now!!)

but there are many more directories around.


Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
A website that proves the cobblers kids adage.
Nightclub counting systems
 
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Two months back I submitted one of the websites to


I believe by doing so i have added my website to DMOZ, right?, beacuse now if i put my Domain in any search engine I atleast get the website. (still not by keyword)

I also added it to
I believe by doing so I also added it to some directory.

Is there any where else(directory) I should submit it to?

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nope that's not DMOZ

is the ODP

and that is only to the yahoo SE which may or may not do anything

all the directories you could ever want

if you can put your domainname and find your site it means your site is being crawled at least.

put a url in your signature here (providing it's not "adult" related.


Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
A website that proves the cobblers kids adage.
Nightclub counting systems
 
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thanks for your message. I submitted it to dmoz.org and will create a signature for my profile.

i believe i do not have to submit to any other directory( other than what i already had (google and dmoz.org ), that should be enough. Infact like you said all you need your domin in a forum and SEs will find you.

One question i have, everbody says there is no free submission in yahoo directory, than what is this


Isn't this free submission in yahoo directory?

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You should get included in other directories. backlinks especially good backlinks are one of the things you are in control of that can determine the frequency of crawling your site, and on-topic backlinks coupled with good anchor text help the SE algo determine the relevancy of your site to the search phrase (especially at Google). Also industry specific and niche directories do get used by searchers and come up in searches for a search term.
One site I look after comes up second page for a competitive term, but the pages for the same site in three separate niche directories come up in the top eight, so they get found anyway.

the free submit link is a request to yahoo for your site to be crawled by their spider (Slurp).

Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
A website that proves the cobblers kids adage.
Nightclub counting systems
 
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I followd the tips given in and things you suggested and optimized one of my clients website. I realise I do need to put backlinks for their site. I hope I am on the right track here and have not done any mistake or missed some thing critical.


If I am on track then I will follow the same tips and optimize my other clients sites too.

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looks pretty much ok, pretty competitive area for a first SEO shot, so you'll need a lot of patience to get good results.

what helps with a dating/introduction site is lots of extra content. a page of safety tips, how to write a good profile etc. and good backlinks are essential.





Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
A website that proves the cobblers kids adage.
Nightclub counting systems
 
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Thanks a lot for looking into my site... You been great help..
 
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Can't see anything glaring that will put the Search Engines off, but do have a couple of design points...

Your page is a bit bloated with <font> tags and other cruft. A total size of 70K for the home page is not unfeasibly large, but still much larger than it needs to be.
For example this:
Code: 
<td width = 82% valign=center><font style='font-family:verdana;font-size:70%;color:red'><strong><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;100% Free Muslim Matrimonial Site</i></strong></td>
could be coded like this:
Code: 
<td width="82%" valign="center" class="tagline">
100% Free Muslim Matrimonial Site
</td>
if you put this in your style sheet:
Code: 
.tagline {
   font: bold italic 70% verdana;
   color: red;
   padding-left: 5em;
}

Secondly, if it were my site, I'd make the [Home] tag the leftmost one - to follow the general internet convention. Having said that, perhaps in an arabic right-to-left culture your placement makes more sense.

-- Chris Hunt
 
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You are right i should use class. It will reduce the code. I tried using class, but at some places I just stright put down <font> tag. I should fix that.

I was under the impression my page size is 45k. I did "view source", that file comes to 21K + I added the size of all the images that comes ro roughly 24K, 21 + 24=45K.

I guess that's not how you calculate the size of your page.
Please let me know if there is a better way.

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RC the page in IE and pick properties, that will tell you the size as the server sends it to the browser, then add in your images.



Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
A website that proves the cobblers kids adage.
Nightclub counting systems
 
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Thanks for your message. i did RC and proprerties gave me the size of 22k + images 24K , i came to 46K. i guess if it is true 46K is not that bad right? I know they talk about keeping the size under 15-20K, but I guess in my case with images it is not possible, without them otherwise site will be really dull.

Thanks

 
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Back links are very important with key words in anchor text to describe your site as mentioned above.

Also, SE like sites with content that is available to them. SE's cannot choose options in a form and press the submit button so pages viewed after that never exist to the SE's.

= PR2 out of 10.(more back links and content raise your PR) Low PR sites (search for 'google toolbar' if you don't have it) have problems with SE's following url's with a ? Dynamic content especially with more than 2 or 3 variables. I suggest giving some listings for users/SE's that have not signed up using limited information to intice users to sign up yet giving SE's keywords and links to follow.

xtendscott
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