gbaughma wrote
...Getting into management has always been a good option, because *good* managers are hard to find, and good managers that understand IT are almost non-existant.
and inspired my question: Is there IT Management school or course or something?
An MBA is always a good entry into management. There are also master's degrees in project management/engineering pmanagement that can be an entry as well. But an MBA is usually the best bet. YOu can sometimes get one with a specialization in information systems.
SQLSister has already answered, but an MBA is the best route one can take for a management track. Rank also matters for an MBA program, depending on what type of job or what industry you want to work in.
You could also get a Masters in Management, Masters in Leadership, or other type of straight masters. But masters degrees are specific and an MBA is general. Meaning, in the MBA you take courses in management, marketing, accounting, finance, etc. In a straight masters in management, with an exception of maybe 6-12 hours, all courses will be in management.
Depends on what you want to do. If you have your eyes set on being the CEO of Toys R Us, then you would be better off with an MBA than a masters in management.
Say you have a BSEE and have been working as an engineer for Boeing for 10 years and you want to move into management; an MBA would be your best option, because your undergrad was in engineering and you probably didn't have any business courses. The MBA being a general degree will cover all of the functional areas of business (e.g., marketing, accounting, etc.)
Contrasting the above, say you have an undergraduate in business administration and you know! that all you want to do is human resources (HR). You would be better off getting a Masters in HR than an MBA because you already had a foundation in the functional business areas in your undergrad program.
Many companies expect their employees to want to progress up the career ladder, and a graduate degree combined with experience is a great option. Just know what you want to do and where you want to go. As a side note, a graduate degree in math, statistics, operations research, or another quantitative area would give you plenty of options for employment as a statistical analyst, statistician, or so forth. At work I was joking with a statistical analyst/SAS programmer that I wanted his job (I am a Unix admin). He said they could always use more analysts because they cannot find enough of them (which I believe to be a very true statement). But you usually have to have a graduate degree (which is usually heavy in research and stats) for that type of position, but the pay is usually much higher than the average pay.
Note to ppl going to college: Take at least two semesters of accounting and one semester of business. REGARDLESS of your degree. This is what the bosses know, and will improve your ability to communicate.
Thanks kHz...star is your!
My husband became a manager just because he was so good at was he is doing. In IT it is not happening I don't think so.
I am looking short way of getting certified as you can NOT learn how to manage people at school, all life experience.
However I would not want to go to college forever, I am 38 for ... sake!
johnherman, Basic Marketing is what I am stink at, this is a main reason I am an IT and not sales...lol
I did an MBA, vanilla - at some institutions you can get an MBA (IT) or similar - but specialised in IT-related issues for the elective modules and the dissertation. I covered all of the general topics: marketing, finance, HR etc.
It seems to be looked on well by employers.
It's not a replacement for learning to manage by doing, but it does/should give you some insight on management techniques and your own style. Being good at doing a job doesn't mean you'll be good at managing people doing that job.
Rosie
"Never express yourself more clearly than you think" (Niels Bohr)
Onyxpurr, what are the required courses for your MISM degree? And how many electives do you have, and can you specialize in a particular area like, software, law, security, communications, etc.?
I can choose the focus for my degree, for example I could choose to take more VB classes as opposed to Internet Security. I have taken management and contract courses that lend themselves more to preparing for management. I am taking a client/server application development class right now and moving onto VB.net next semester. Every class is taken from the stance that you are a manager and you don't necessarily need to know how to put together a client/server app technically, however they teach you the skills to oversee one.
For example, for my client/server app class, we just finished the project document to put together a client/server app. This included choosing a project methodology, creating a schedule, creating a cost analysis, analyzing risks, among many other project related topics.
Interestingly my B.S. in Information Science included two accounting courses, two sociology courses, a business law course, and several that I've forgotten. But management wasn't included so that's why I'll end up going for an MBA.
The thing is, my experience has given me exposure to accounting and management for the last decade plus. So the MBA program should be interesting when I start this coming fall.
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