Is there another alternative 1

[tsdragon]

From a TV commercial:

"If you're a man or a woman over fifty..."

Do I really need to say anything?


Tracy Dryden

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard.

 

[jsteph]

Well, taken literally, it could mean
"If you're a man [any age], or a woman who is over 50"
as opposed to
"If you're over 50"
--Jim

 

[BillyRayPreachersSon]

Nice ;o)

It reminds me of the immigration form you receive when you are about to enter Australia:

"If you are not an Australian citizen, do you have a criminal record?"

Dan


The answers you get are only as good as the information you give!

 

[tsdragon]

jsteph: you're correct, but the way it was spoken did not lend itself to that interpretation. Unfortunately you can't really pass that part along in print.


Tracy Dryden

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard.

 

[MakeItSo]

Star Trek 10 - Nemesis:

Dear Ladies, Gentlemen and present transgender species...

The truth is out there, somewhere...


[blue]An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind. - "Mahatma" Mohandas K. Gandhi[/blue]

 

[GPOTony]

BillyRayPreachersSon,
A friend of mine was asked "Do you have a criminal record?"
when entering Australia.
He said "I didn't think it was still a requirement"

 

[SantaMufasa]

Tracy, I beg to differ. If one wishes to convey "JSteph's" interpretation, the wording can become:

"If you are a woman over 50 or a man..."

Correct?

Mufasa
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[tsdragon]

I wasn't meaning to say that there was no way to word it that didn't convey that meaning. What I was trying to say is that there was no way to QUOTE the exact phrase and convey a particular meaning. The woman who said it (Meridith Viera) said it something like: "If you're a man [slight emphasis]or[/slight emphasis] a woman [very slight pause] over 50." For the other interpretation it would have to have been said: "If you're a man [slight pause] [run together] or a woman over 50 [/run together]."

See what I mean?


Tracy Dryden

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard.

 

[SilentAiche]

I am reminded of a common pharmaceutical commercial tagline that says "if you are pregnant, nursing, or may become pregnant"...

In my poor, helpless mind, the tagline always continues (to my involuntary gigglement) as "if you are pregnant, nursing, or may become pregnant [blue]or a nurse...[/blue]

Just can't help it.

Tim

 

[SantaMufasa]

Tim, that deserves a star !!!

Cheers

Mufasa
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[SilentAiche]

Dave,

Most kind, sir!

Tim

 

[CrystalStart]

Another alternative?
Isn't "alternative " - ANOTHER?
So it is like "is there another another?"

See...

 

[SilentAiche]

I think "another alternative" is okay. You could have Alternative 1, or another one called Alternative 2, or another one called Alternative 3, etc.

Tim

 

[SantaMufasa]

Crystal,

Not precisely. If someone offered "a single alternative", it would be correct (and not redundant) to ask, "Do you have another alternative?"

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[CrystalStart]

If you're a man or a woman over fifty..."

I don't see what is Kaboom all about?
How would you improve this add if you were suppose to address men and women over 50? Both genders?
"People over 50?" or may be "Both sexes over 50?"

No, seriously, how would you do it?

Another one
"if you are pregnant, nursing, or may become pregnant"...
this drug is not for you - commercial explaining.
So, pregnant, nursing, or trying to become pregnant and might already became... - are high risk and suppose to be worned.

It's Friday, cheer up!

 

[SantaMufasa]

Tim, Obviously great thinks mind alike.

Crystal, if a comment is non-restrictive (meaning no specific exclusions, then the default presumption is "all members of the set". If someone says, "If you are a man or a woman...", whom are they restricting? To say, "If you are a man or a woman over 50..." is an unnecessary qualification that leads to confusion/ambiguity. The phrase should read simply, "If you are over 50...". This is unambiguous.

Mufasa
(aka Dave of Sandy, Utah, USA)

http://www.dasages.com

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[CrystalStart]

So then "it is good for men and women" invalid saying?

Something is not right in this discussion :-(

We are so close to get into "if you are a human over 50"
it is actually funny LOL

Who gave me a star? What for? Thanks though.

 

[SilentAiche]

"if you are pregnant, nursing, or may become pregnant"...
this drug is not for you - commercial explaining.
So, pregnant, nursing, or trying to become pregnant and might already became... - are high risk and suppose to be worned.

Take another look at the second paragraph of my post. It was meant as a joke - it had to do with one becoming pregnant [blue] or a nurse[/blue] - obviously, becoming a nurse (and, of course, I'm not using the term "nurse" to refer to breastfeeding moms), but the joke was about anyone becoming a regular nurse being at higher risk with whatever the medication was. As I've mentioned before, my "giggle" threshold is lower than most. Sorry if that part was confusing.

Tim