inDesign Magazine layout

[xrsixturbo]

Hey guys

I am doing a magazine layout for a perfect bind magazine.

I want to be able to view the pages side by side.
All the pages are a4 with 5mm bleed around.

The problem I am having is that when I create a document as facing pages there is no bleed between the left and right pages- prefect bind need pages to have bleed as that inner part will be glued to the spine.

Please see image

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7496/perfectboundindesignprorb3.jpg

Does anyone know how this can be setup properly

 

[jmgalvin]

The bleed's there, but shows for the whole spread. If it didn't show that way, the red bleed lines would overlap each other at the spline. There's no problem.

You can see the bleed by goin to page 1 or viewing single page.



Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4

 

[apepp]

...when the prepress set up the imposition they will allow for a grind off allowance based upon their finishers requirements, it may well be more than 6mm on the spines, but really this value is irrelevant to you as the artworker...

...the actual grind off will finish at the trim mark of the spine, whatever falls into the bleed area will be cut off...

...glue is then applied for the cover to wrap around, finally the remaining three edges are trimmed off...

...even if the spines bleed contains elements of the opposing pages artwork (when you print to single pages from a facing pages document) it will be cut off, and on top of this, you won't see about 5mm of the pages artwork (due to the covers hinge), unless you, with force, flatten down the publication...

...of course, doing this weakens the publication eventually, but nobody reading a perfect bound publication does this, unless they want to peel out a page carefully...

...in short, facing page set ups are fine for perfect bound work...

...if the print provider uses a CTP system then they can set up the imposition templates to not allow bleed on the spines if they wish (clipping), but this step isn't necessary in my experience...

...the grind off trims down to the spines edge eventually...

...the spine allowance for the cover requires calculation, this you should be able to get from your print provider, unless they are happy to artwork the cover as a spread themselves, then you don't need to worry about it, other than making sure they know what to print on the spine itself (if anything at all)...

...if your publication was to be wirobound then you would have to approach it differently as the bleed on the spines is more relevant as the pages are trimmed out individually in most cases...

...perfect bound publications are folded signatures, much like saddle stitch...

Andrew

 

[apepp]

...the grind off allowance on the imposition is typically 3mm (minimum), meaning a 6mm gutter on spine edges, created at imposition stage...

...also, to add, perfect bound covers need to have paper (no ink) on the spine allowance (inner side) width so the glue adheres better and the pages don't fall out...

...also perfect bound cover spines don't like being varnished as some glues used won't adhere to that area if they are, but your printer will hopefully be in tune with this too...

Andrew