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I'm pretty sure I saw the answer to this in another thread. Nortel IP phone and Avaya end point lic.

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I'm pretty sure I saw the answer to this in another thread. Nortel IP phone and Avaya end point lic.

In my quest to find a cheap TCM-8 card. I was thinking (watching a old avaya ip office nortel presentation video) that you can
use certain models of nortel IP phones. Do you need a endpoint license or will it worth with one of those VCM32 cards?
That is what I have in my setup. I have two cards. Not sure why. But then I can use the included licenses on them for the
few avaya ip office phones I picked up.

Thanks,

Josh
 
the TCM 8 card will give you 8; ports for nortel phones without the need for any licence.
Same as Avaya digital phones..
Any other licence would be for IP phones.
 
The Nortel 1200 series IP phones can be used with an IP Office and will use the standard IP endpoint licenses. When registering the 1200 series phones to the IPO they will download SIP firmware as the Nortel H.323 unistem firmware is not compatible with an IPO. You will have to created the users as SIP users.
I did this with a large customer that had a Nortel BCM and 1200 series phones. They wanted to upgrade to an IPO but keep the investment in the phones. I believe there was close to 50 phones involved.
The functionality of the phones once converted to SIP is not a robust as when they were connected to a BCM, but they do work well.

 
TCM cards and IP phones are two totally separate things.

The Nortel digital phones (some Nortel M-Series and T-Series) that can connect to a TCM card will not require licenses.

The Nortel IP phones (some 1100 and 1200 Series) that IP Office supports will need VCM resources from the system and Avaya IP phone licenses.

Stuck in a never ending cycle of file copying.
 
After I posted below. I found the answer in a guide.

The 1100/1200 Series phones are supported on the following IP Office systems:
The control unit must be running IP Office Release 6.1 or higher software.
If installed with earlier versions of IP Office software, these phones will operate as third-party IP end points. They will require a 3rd Party IP Endpoint license, will only support basic telephony features (equivalent to an analogue extension) and are not supported by Avaya.
1100 Series and 1200 Series SIP phones use Avaya IP Endpoint licenses.

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Sorry I always over type an explanation. I should have left the TCM-8 card out of my questions. I know that is digital only for Nortel. So
if the phones download a version of sip (thank you for letting me know that sucks for features. Seems to be the par for most voip phone systems. Third party sip support but limited.) firmware automatically. Then to me sounds like you would need to get a sip endpoint license to use the phones. Even if you have the VCM32 card with included Avaya endpoint 12 licenses. Does that sound correct? As stated in other posts. This is a hobby and I don't want to order a phone from e-pay to find out it is blocked or unsupported. On a side note. I'm messing around with WML with Avaya 9641g phone.

Thanks,

Josh

 
If your IPO software is 6.1 or higher then you will not need 3rd party endpoint licenses as the IPO will recognize the Nortel IP phones as being compatible with standard endpoint licenses.

 
You can see the list of supported phones which doesn't include all of the 1100 or 1200 series.

BTW the TCM8 module is only supported from R7.0
 
I ended up with four IP office systems. The two I use for testing have IP office 8.0 on them. So I'm covered on that.

Thanks for all the help,

Josh
 
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