I know you *nix heads are probably sick of these dumb questions.... 1

[Cadwalader]

Greetings gurus,

I am new to *nix. Before today, all I could do is log in to a shell account. Anyway, I want to learn RedHat Linux like I know Windows 2000.

Hear is what I've done: I scrounged up free parts including an SIS 530/5595, put a Pentium I 150Mhz CPU on it, just last night, went to Staples and got a 30Gig 7200 RPM HDD, and stuck 64MB RAM on the mobo. I installed RedHat as Server, text only (I know, I am a glutton for punnishment).
I have LAN in the house, the RedHat box hooked up, and running. I can login, change directories, view files, write mail....and I can ping my server at work, so I can get outside the house on the network with the Linux box. I also have my laptop sitting right next to the Linux box and I am ready to learn.

So, my question is, is there any way to browse the Internet with a text only Server? I mean like a browser of some sort? Of course it would be like browsing the net on a cell phone, but I don't care about eye candy.
If I have to DL something, I'm pretty sure that I can get it via FTP. I've used FTP on the WinBox quite successfully in the past from the cmd line.

By now you might be thinking, "Why in the world would an M$ lamer want to do this?"

The answer is simple: I am a web designer and I fubard a cgi and my boss got rather, well, mad and has to pay the guy that set all his stuff up to fix it.

In order to prevent this from happening again, I got my server up and running to begin the journey to Linux land.
I have an unimaginable pile of stuff to learn, I know, and one of the things I have to learn is perl as it relates to the web. This adventure will benifit me in the long run. I want to learn this, but I don't want my hand held....I don't mean to be rude, I am must trying to say that I am not going to ask a question in here, and then ask, "ok, what next?"

Thanks for your help in advance. Hope I was of some help...
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Thanks for the help...
--Rich

 

[danielhozac]

There is a text mode browser called "lynx". I'm not sure that it is included in the RedHat server text only install, but it is on the RedHat CDs. If you don't have it already, pop in the CDs one by one and execute these commands

umount /mnt/cdrom
mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS
find . -name lynx*.i386.rpm | xargs rpm -i

To see if the file was found and if it's installed, execute this command:

rpm -q lynx

If it still isn't installed, pop in the next CD and repeat the procedure until you have it installed. //Daniel

 

[Cadwalader]

Daniel,
Thanks for the info. I'll try it after I inhale this eegsalad sandwich.
I just Telnet working and stuff, so one of my many goals has been accomplished.
I'll let ya know how it's going.

Thanks again. Hope I was of some help...
--OR--
Thanks for the help...
--Rich

 

[Cadwalader]

Hehehe...

This is going to take a few minutes, there are 8 CD's!!!

Hope I was of some help...
--OR--
Thanks for the help...
--Rich

 

[danielhozac]

You got 8 RedHat CDs??? That must be at least 3 different versions. Or 2 if you got the source CDs too. What version of RedHat are you running? //Daniel

 

[Cadwalader]

Version 7.3.....there are 3 installs (only use the first 2 for the server text only install) Documentation CD, 2 source code CDs, and 2 application CDs: Applications and Star Office.

What does the (Valhala) mean?
on the fireup screen, and log in screen, I get that after the RedHat Linux 7.3{it prints to screen}"(Valhala)" what does that mean? Hope I was of some help...
--OR--
Thanks for the help...
--Rich

 

[danielhozac]

Oh, you bought it. That explains it.
Valhalla is the name of the 7.3 release. //Daniel

 

[RhythmAce]

You were saying that you would like to learn perl as it relates to the web. There are many scripting languages. The most common ones are perl, C and C++. All script languages have routines that are specific to different types of output such as screen, printer, sound card or disk. To get scripts to be interactive on the web, they need special routines. This is called the Common Gateway Interface (cgi). The post popular is perl/cgi. The easiest way to learn about cgi programming to to play with lots and lots of code. Get your hands on some simple scripts and see what they do then open them up in an editor and see how they do it. The fun part is modifying them and see what happens. A good place to get your mitts on all the scripts you can handle is

http://www.cgi-resources.com

I'm sure tek-tips also has a programming forum just for perl and cgi. There are millions of books on the subject too.

 

[danielhozac]

"The most common ones are perl, C and C++."
According to Netcraft, PHP is the most common scripting language on the internet. //Daniel

 

[RhythmAce]

If you wanna look at it that way, HTML is more common. I can dig where you're comming from though. One of my sites is 100% php.

 

[Cadwalader]

Daniel & RhythmAce,
Thanks for the help. I am well read on what kinds of languages that are used on the internet, I just don't know how to write them. I am just now starting to get a grip on JS, I know HTML inside and out, VML, XML, and others. Pretty much the simple stuff and it's time to start learning something that can DO something, ya kow? That is why I (yes I did go out and purchace a box set) got this Linux box up and running so if I mess something up, it's no big deal.

I appreciate the help, I'm sure--I know--I'll have many more questions... Hope I was of some help...
--OR--
Thanks for the help...
--Rich