I am a beginner at making my web pa

[Deltaflyer]

I am a beginner at making my web pages shout at people, but the company i work for is using an Intranet based web site for a lot of their order processing, unfortunately my pages are not "SELF EXPLANATORY" enough and so would like a little voice to popup and tell the user what they have done wrong, only problem is i dont know how to make the web page use a .wav file.

Does anybody now how to make this happen, please let me know, these dolts are driving me insane. DeltaFlyer ;-)

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[Kingmarl]

Your best bet is to use a flash movie.

Import the wav, and play with the sound compression options. You could even make a little loading screen for the sound. |-I

If you have more than one, make all of them load in to the flash movie and using a few 'iccle codes (Get from Macromedia.com or use Dreamwever behaviours) you can controll the flash movie with HTML buttons.
(eg - Play this sound on mouse over - It's actually go to frame but stop current sound then play next sound within the movie ain't hard) ----------------------------------------
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[KevinFSI]

However, you may want to re-evaluate the idea. Using .wav files in such a manner is awfully unorthodox. Although I welcome new things in the area of web development, I don't know if, as a user, I want a wav file telling me what errors I've made.

Just a thought though. You're free to tell me to blow it out my... ;-) Kevin
slanek@ssd.fsi.com

 

[Deltaflyer]

I can't use flash as i haven't got a clue how to use flash for one and i do not think my boss will be willing to allow me to install another piece of software for practically no use.

The reason i want to include a .WAV file telling the user that they have cocked up is because they appear to have the inability to read what they are supposed to do and keep cocking up the system. Every time i figure out what they are doing and put in safeguards they find another way of cocking it all up, i thought that a stern wave file telling them that their activities are being logged ( and yes i would be logging there activities ) would put them off. DeltaFlyer ;-)

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[KevinFSI]

I'm not second guessing your decision. Is there a way you could boot them out of the application? Kevin
slanek@ssd.fsi.com

 

[QuietDean]

Are the applications form-based? If so, you may want to consider client-side validation.

 

[Deltaflyer]

Kevin, what do you mean BOOT THEM OUT OF THE APPLICATION?

QuietDean, yes my APP is form based and yes i have lots of validation, unfortunately not enough! But size restrictions limit how much i can add, too much validation and 30 second load/save times. DeltaFlyer ;-)

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[KevinFSI]

In other words, if they've done something to garner a wav file error message, why not end their session instead? Then don't allow them to get back into the application until they come to you, at which point you can smack them and tell them, "Don't do that again!" Maybe after a couple times of being faced with work stoppage, they'll get the point. Evil, I know! Kevin
slanek@ssd.fsi.com

 

[Deltaflyer]

Now that sounds like a good idea, but i think that the amount of people that come up each day would mean that my knuckles would surely break after a couple hours.

problem with kicking them out of the session is that most of these people work the other end of the country from where i am, i only work on the server, so if i do kill their session then i either gotta answer the phone all day, read 2000 emails and do nothing else. Not my idea of fun.

If it can't be done then i will endeavor to find another way around it and make sure that they can't cock up anymore, thanks for your help anyway guys.
DeltaFlyer ;-)

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[KevinFSI]

Oh, well the geographical separation could throw a monkey wrench in my idea.

Let me ask you this, what language is the application written in? You have to have some kind of script handling your form inputs?

You said that there is already some error handling involved? Is it server-side or client-side? Might I suggest making it client side, so that they will not be able to do as much damage to the system. Kevin
slanek@ssd.fsi.com

 

[Deltaflyer]

I am using ASP, loads of VB and javascript validation.

What they tend to do is use codes that the server cannot handle, i.e. apostrophes ', these little rats made my life hell for days. The client side javascript cannot handle these being put in to a text field, equally <% and %> and &quot; all produce VB errors.

I will just have to turn the tables and make the users lives hell and make the text areas entirely TEXT only. No more vac8ions (vacations), no more pay ^'s (pay rises), how they understand all this XLNT (excellent) phrasing is beyond me but they do, or should i say did.

Time to die little users hahahahahahah.

No seriously, it was a nice idea being able to make the computer shout at the individual but if it is not possible then i will just hit the old keyboard and start making their lives crappy and awkward.

Cheers for all your help folks, if i do ever figure out a way to do this, then i will call you and let you know.

Until the next time ladies and gentlemen, this is the deltaflyer signing off for another session, catchya later bill'n'ted.
DeltaFlyer ;-)

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[tsdragon]

Every time I made the form foolproof, they came up with a bigger fool!
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
For you are crunchy, and good with mustard.

 

[KevinFSI]

Indeed-e-o! Kevin
slanek@ssd.fsi.com

 

[calista]

Gee, DeltaFlyer, do I detect a note of frustration with and hostility toward your users?

 

[Deltaflyer]

What???? Me???? Never!!!!

Seriously i love my users i have no hostility towards them, those i have spoken to are fantastic they are all to willing to help me out with whatever pieces of information i ask of them.

No my frustration is with myself, that i am unable to make a completely idiot proof system. But as the wise TSDRAGON says, Every time I made the form foolproof, they came up with a bigger fool!

I do apologise if i gave any other impression. My users do ( i reiterate ) do mean the world to me, after all i am working for them......albeit indirectly.

Anyway folks, i think i am on the way to getting an answer, nothing good yet but at least i now have an avenue for investigation and some cool recordings that i am gonna use if i ever get this baby to work. DeltaFlyer ;-)

DeltaFlyer - The Only Programmer To Crash With Style.