hp lj1100 local printer redirects,except to a single xp pro pc

[theudc]

hp lj1100 appears everywhere we test, will not appear on the one pc on which it is needed to appear.

some lazy definitions follow:

pc1 = xp pro sp2 with hp laserjet 1100 (ms) local lpt1

pc2 = xp pro sp2 with hp laserjet 1300 pcl6 local lpt1

printer redirects = local lj1100 appears on remote machine
as the default printer, printing on the remote machine
prints locally on the pc1 lj100.
checking ports on the remote pc for the lj100,
we always find
tsxxx pc1 prnX in the list and checked

other xp pro with sp1,sp2 = different pces on both local
lan and the wan, with various local printers including
the konica minolta pagepro 1350 (cheap to purchase,
fast printing, nightmare quality drivers
and status monitor)

need to rdp to pc2 from pc1 with lj100 redirect to pc2

tests that ALWAYS work:
rdp from pc1 to other xp pro pc with sp1 printer redirects
rdp from pc1 to other xp pro pc with sp2 printer redirects

test that ALWAYS fail:
rdp from pc1 to pc2 lj100 doesnt appear on pc2
port list on lj1300 doesn't have any tsxxx ports listed

notes:

rdp from pc2 to pc1. the local lj1100 port list includes ts001 pc2 prn2 unchecked in the port list
but the lj1300 doesn't appear in the printer list

rdp from pc2 to other xp pro with sp1 or sp2 lj1300 will redirect and print if the lj1300 drivers are installed first on the other remote pc, have to redo parts of the
process each new rdp session.

pc2 has nothing in the system event log for printers

special note:
pc2 does have a dcom 10010 event for guid that appears to
refer to "microsoft.rapimgr.1" this may be a sync program
for a treo cellphone that has outlook installed on the phone. "rapimgr." does not yet appear in search engines.
error may log eventid when the treo is not attached to the usb port on pc2.

 

[BadFrog]

First off this may be better suited for the printer forum. Next, could you please sum up exactly what it is you are trying to accomplish? And thirdly is this something that has worked in the past or something new you are trying to configure to work? Thanks.

"Once you can accept the universe as matter expanding into nothing that is something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy"
Albert Einstein

 

[theudc]

thanks for the reply.

we dont think of this as a printer issue, but an os issue
but if this question is better suited to the printer
forum, please advise.

the printer works on the pc to which it
is attached (pc1 in the original post),
and thru redirection, on many different workstations ,
when pc1 is the client for an rdp session to a second
xp pro workstation. print and output appears on the
local lj 1100. this redirection, is seamless, requires
no effort, or changes. click on rdp, login, and the
local printer is redirected and working.

summarizing: the printer works locally and thru
redirection in all but one pairing.

"exactly what it is you are trying to accomplish"

the subject of the original post:
hp lj1100 local printer redirects, except to a single
xp pro pc

the first line of the post:

hp lj1100 appears everywhere we test, will not
appear on the one pc on which it is needed to
appear.

maybe that could would have been clearer with other
words. is this better?

boss connects from offsite (using pc1) thru rdp to his
workstation, (pc2) at work.

local printer on his client (pc1) doesnt appear on the
remote target (pc2), so he can't print. all his
friends are able to print at home. using the same
client, he connects to many of the friends remote
workstations, the client printer redirects, and prints
as expected. but when
he connects to his work pc, via rdp, the local printer
doesn't redirect. sound passes to local ws, but not
the printer.

pc2, is as far as we can tell, not any different
from all of the other xp pro ws on which the
redirection DOES work as expected, using, so far as
we can determine, the same settings on the client used
when the redirection IS working.

and adding. the pces on which redirection
automatically displays the local printer in
the printer and fax control panel, (and disappears
on logging out of the rdp session, just as the book
says it should) are at different patch levels, some
with sp1, some with sp2, some with windows firewall
turned on,some with windows firewall off, one with
firewall "xfilter-en" from fileseclab.com, also in
the ON state.
all combos of administrator and restricted usernames
used on client and target have no effect. a remote
target pc with a lockdown grouppolicy on the target,
the local printer still redirects, and prints.
same combos, pc1 to pc2 as remote, never redirects.

many of the usual "why something doesn't work
excuses", are present and don't appear to be
affecting the redirection, or failure to redirect.

maybe the question should have been, what conditions
on an xp pro workstation, prevents printer
redirection from working, when the client local
printer and rdp settings, should allow redirection
to work as described and expected, and when testing
on several target remote workstations using those
settings is successful?

or maybe, can an hp lj 1300 attached as a local
lpt1 device on the remote target pc, prevent an
lj 1100 from being redirected during an rdp session?

(tried deleting and removing the lj1300, attempted to
scrub the regsitry of any hp lj reference, still no
redirection.
visit hp website, download latest driver, reinstall
lj1300, try rdp redirection again, still not work)

or maybe, could the problem actually be on pc1, and
pc2 is the only one that detects it and won't allow
the redirection? all the others ignore the issue and
allow the printer to redirect anyway?

more notes:

pc2 has only been used to browse the

http://www internet

from a username with administrator rights only for
updates from the microsoft support website, and to
perform virus/malware checks (all have been
negative), and to install printers and the like.

the rest of the time,
ALL other user activity has been from usernames that
are members of the group "users" (aka restricted
users) accounts. we think it is "clean".

we've used up all of the easy, simple things to try.

hoping someone else, has had a similar problem,
but had a rapid solution, and is willing to share.

again, thanks for the reply, hope this is clearer.

 

[linney]

Did you see this recent thread? I'm not sure if it helps you but I thought I'd post it.

REMOTE DESKTOP PRINTING
thread779-1229397

 

[theudc]

hi linney,

thanks for the reply. yes, we saw that thread and browsed thru most of it.

maybe the question should have been, what conditions
on an xp pro workstation, that is the remote target
of an rdp session, will cause the rdp client, to not
be able to redirect it's local printer to the remote
pc.

click on start> accessories> communications> remote desktop
(default settings are bring sound to this computer, and in the local device list, printer is checked). enter an address, press connect, logon and everything is working.

sounds play on the client, client printer becomes (temporarily) the default printer on the remote target.

wow, something from microsoft that actually works and almost anyone can have it working correctly on the first try. no need for IT geeks, it's already built in, it's free, and there are no addtional licenses required.
sounds almost too good to be true.

(it helps that the hp lj 1100 is one of the "natural" printers that does not require driver install on the remote
pc.)

and then the same client, connecting to yet another xp pro
workstation, using the same defaults, sound redirects perfectly, but not the printer!!!

why? we were hoping, someone on the forum, would reply with a registry value in the wrong state, or value, or some other configuration setting, or .... something on either client or remote target, that causes an otherwise working printer redirection to fail, in this special case.

this one has been a bit embarassing, it was tested and worked in every test case, try to hand it over to the
requster who also pays the bills, and this case only, it has never worked.

thanks again, for the reply, starting to think that this one will require sending money to $ms$ to achive a solution.