How to hook up ring down circuit to G3siV11 3

[Mugsiensedgwick]

G3siV11
R011i.02.0.110.4
We are a hospital and we have a ring down circuit to 911.
Currently it is going through a 1A key system that I would love to ditch.
Can this be hooked up to a trunk circuit?
Of course it's loop start, I assume.
I know I need to restrict access to it and I don't think I'll have any trouble if I use COS/COR to add restrictions to keep the wrong people from hitting this trunk.
I've never added a trunk so walk me through if you don't mind.
Thanks a bunch,
-Randy

 

[mikeydidit]

Randy our ring downs to 911 are just circuits. You go off-hook and they start ringing. Nothing else. I did find a red single line set to install it on in the ER. But thats it.

This may just be hooked up as the tip and ring for one of those old six button key sets. If so your good to go. Put your butt set on it and go off-hook. It should start ringing.

Let me know if you need more help. Us hospital guys have some "special" stuff to work with.

When is the last time you helped someone, just because you were able to?

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[AvayaTier3]

You have to get rid of the Definity dial-tone, and you have to keep the trunk
dial-tone test from running because it will:

1. Fail
2. Generate a major alarm
3. Aggravate the distant end

- Translate the port into a trunk-group defined as WATS.
- Translate Direction: incoming (this stops the dial-tone test).
- Translate Dial Access? n
- Translate Maintenance Tests? n
- Translate the Incoming Destination: xxxx (term-ext-group ext).
- Translate the stations to be members of term-ext-group xxxx and give
the stations "term-x-gr" buttons.
- Change the station's COR for Facility Access Trunk Test? y
- Give the stations an "abrv-dial" button which will dial the Facility Test
Calls Access Code carrier/slot/circuit.

To make a call, the user goes off-hook and depresses the "abrv-dial" button.
This cuts through to the trunk and rings the distant end.

An incoming call flashes the "term-x-gr" button. The worst shortcoming of this
is that each ringdown requires 2 buttons per station.


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[Mugsiensedgwick]

Thanks guys. I guess I have optionms and that's what I wanted.
One question, can I have this as a button on the attendant consoles?
Our consoles are 302c type.
I assume if I can, it will require 2 buttons there as well.

 

[Mitch672]

We setup ringdowns for brokerage clients all the time, we use a trunk group, and point it to an X-ported station. The X-ported station is put on the phones of the people you want to have the ringdown via an analog bridge button ("abrdg XXXX", where XXXX is the fake station #). On the trunk group form, you set the "incomming destination" to this X-ported station (thats how the inbound works), for outbound, you use "hotline" dialling on the X-ported station, and just setup some system or group abbreviated dial codes, these codes are the "TAC" (Trunk Access Code) for the ringodwn trunk group, so when you push the button, you are actually dialing the TAC of the trunk group, and the call rings through.

Also remember on the trunk group to set the "outgoing dial type" to "automatic", "dial access" to "y" (so you can access the trunk via the TAC code), also set the "Trunk Type" to "auto/auto" (for most ringdowns)

This method works with only 1 button, and you can control which phones the bridged appearance is on ring (via the options on the "abrdg-appr", the disadvantage is this also uses 1 RTU for each ringdown (for the X-ported station)



Mitch

AVAYA Certified Expert

 

[PBXTech]

isnt there a way to do this with just a 2500 station using the Hotline feature on tab 3? just put the actual telephone circuit(s) in a trunk group as stated above. then have the 2500 set extension's enhanced dialing list use the TAC in one of the line entries?
and then if you wanted an attendant or any other phone to use this, put a speed dial with the TAC in it?
just brain-storming...

 

[AvayaTier3]

Instructions provided earlier have been used since system 75 in 1985 and still work today.

There may be many ways to make this work on different versions.

Personally, I would want proven methods that are used rather than hypothetical fixes that people dream up and have not tried on their own pbx.

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bsh

36 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 26 years and counting

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[PBXTech]

the 2500 set using the Hotline feature works fine for guard-shacks on a US Navy Submarine base, although it dials an internal extension for emergencies. they don't use any of that fancy-shmancy 'specific trunk group using a TAC' programming.

 

[AvayaTier3]

And the difference is that both ends of a hotline that you describe are stations in the switch.

The fancy-shmancy stuff is integrating ringdown circuits that work external to the switch, with circuits that allow access and full functionality of the original design with switch endpoints.

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bsh

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[PBXTech]

yes. you are correct. what i am saying is that an abbreviated dialing list could possbly be used on a Hotline phone to send the ringdown to a specific trunk group using a TAC in the Dial Code line of the abbreviated dialing list.

 

[AvayaTier3]

here is a test for you.
take two analog stations with hotline programmed.
station "a" goes off hook and rings station "b"
station "b" goes off hook and rings station "a"

These two circuits for the stations are analog loop-start circuits.

Add two trunk-groups and use the station "a" and "b" circuits to feed two tn747b trunk circuits, put each in a trunk-group and make your solution work.
report your findings.

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bsh

36 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
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[PBXTech]

can you use a TAC in the Dial Code line of the abbreviated dialing list?

 

[AvayaTier3]

yes

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bsh

36 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
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[Mitch672]

The method I have posted is working for numerous Financial companies with "Ringdown" circuits to various brokerage houses in NY, many of our clients have 10, 12 or even 20 different ringdowns, my method works for all of them, and allow 1 button access for inbound and outbound, by simply pressing the button. We have been using this method for over 15 years without problems. The only disadvatnage is the use of 1 RTU for the X-ported station. If you don't have the spare RTU, you can do this with "personal CO" lines as well, although you can't control the inbound ringing per station (all Personal CO lines will ring on eveyr station they are on)



Mitch

AVAYA Certified Expert

 

[Mugsiensedgwick]

Wow, that's a lot of good information. I'll let you know how it all works out on the console after I get the LSP to put in the circuit. That will be the real test.
Thanks,
-Randy