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How do I completly Flatten a EPS file in illustrator CS2

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softbrix2

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Feb 28, 2005
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I want to give my client a flatten eps file that they can't edit. I tried flatten transparency but I was still able to edit the EPS once re-opened. How can I save a Eps or Vector File that's not editable at all, My files is currently in layers.
 
...have you tried a secure pdf file? or for very limited edits send them a bitmap file, jpg, tif...

andrew
 
so there's no way to give them a non-editable eps? I thought most logos and such came in EPS format that you can't edit?. if possibe I would love to give them a eps file and a pdf
 
...eps is essentially many formats into one format, eps is an editable format if fonts aren't converted to outline paths. With fonts as outline paths this would render the eps very annoying to edit, although in truth still editable to a degree if your client has access to a vector application. Lets assume he has every vector application going on a computer at easy reach...

...with fonts kept as fonts your client will need the font you have used to be able to edit the eps and print it, unless you embed the fonts in the eps (note some fonts won't embed using this method). Lets us again assume he has every font ever made...

...if you really want your client to be restricted go the pdf route or bitmap route...

...but in any case, you have created a logo that a client has I assume paid for, so in reality it is his artwork whatever way you look at it, and he can have it in any format he wishes without question, and if he wishes edit it himself too...

andrew
 
so your telling me that the client should have my master file withing paying for a master? I'm giving them 2 options. option 1, pay for the finished logo/label design flattened or option 2. pay for the master editable files. they choose option 2.
 
...well, i was assuming he had paid for it of course, and as such, paid for artwork is then client artwork, entitling the client to master copies...

...get a house built, you won't get master drawings without paying for them, go to the supermarket fill up your trolley and walk out saying "i will pay you later"...

...not paid for yet? send a printed proof, or a secure pdf, or a rough low res bitmap file (the client can probably use this on a website, if the client does, he doesn't own it yet)...

andrew
 
...then we start going down the copyright maze!! : (

andrew
 
so is it fair to charge one price for a flatten jpeg/tiff/pdf and charge a higher price for the mastes editable file?. I'm asking because we are a small design company and would like to know the law/common rule used for stuff like this.
 
...well, worth putting it this way again, charge the time it takes to create what the client requires, once client has paid and calls you back asking for master logos and the master layouts he is entitled to them...

...until client has paid then refuse to release such files...

...i would ask yourself this, how would you feel if you had to pay extra for something you have already paid the time for someone to create what you wanted?

I would feel pretty ripped off, so keep it simple, send them low res files, printouts and secure pdf's until you are paid, they are your only way really. Most in my experience prefer hard proofs. Digital files are great but never really a substitute for hard copy.

We don't charge for digital files sent but we do charge extra for printouts and the studio time involved to create artwork and the extra time any amendments take.

No fairness in charging more for one format than another. Only charge for the time required. Of course there is no law for you not too, but doing so could lead you to lose clients.

andrew

 
I agree with Andrew - you charge whatever rate for the creation - after they pay, it's theirs. If they want to change colors, add text, change the shape, whatever, it's up to them - they've paid for the creation.

If later down the road they want you to modify, there's more money for you.

Donna
 
Just a thought....... I use Illustrator a little bit, but I have never used layers... (My bad.) But can a copy of the eps file be raterized thereby making it un-editable?
 
...yes, we went down that route earlier in the thread, the thread then went on to security features and non-editable vector files rather than bitmaps...

...ilustrator eps files are editable in vector form...

...for client viewing, low res rgb jpg bitmaps or pdfs are better, more universal, more people can open these formats...

andrew
 
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