Horizontal Cabling Percentage & Pricing

[buitenhek]

I am putting together a spreadsheet and wanted to get a general feel from the forum on some values you have seen in your market for typical pvc voice/data/fiber installs. Thank you for the effort.

Labor Percent of Total Bid Sell Price 40%
Material Percent of Total Bid Sell Price 60%
Pull Cable (Copper Only) percent of total labor hours or 62.00%
Pull Cable (Fiber & Copper) percent of total labor hours 60.30%
Terminate Cable (Copper Only) percent of total labor hours or 9.60%
Terminate Cable (Fiber & Copper) percent of total labor hours 12.90%
Test & Document Cable (Copper Only) or 16.40%
Test & Document Cable (Fiber & Copper) 17.40%
Differential for Multiple Types of Copper Cable (Boxes or Reels) or 0.70%
Differential for Multiple Types of Copper & Fiber Cable 0.50%
Innerduct Pull (Fiber runs only) 1.60%
Faceplate Install (Copper Only) or 3.90%
Faceplate Install (Fiber & Copper) 2.30%
Cable Hanger Install (Copper Only) or 7.40%
Cable Hanger Install (Fiber & Copper) 5.00%
Cost: Voice Cable "CAT5e" per ft $0.12
Cost: Data Cable "CAT6" per ft $0.23
Cost: Duplex Fiber Cable Multimode per ft $0.38
Cost: Fiber Optic Cable Innerduct per ft $0.43
Cost: Voice Copper Cable "CAT5e" Jack each $3.10
Cost: Data Copper Cable "CAT6" Jack each $5.05
Cost: Dual Fiber Optic Connectors (1 connector/side needed) each $15.00
Cost: Single Fiber Optic Connector (2 connectors/side needed) each $10.00
Cost: Faceplate plus mudring each $2.10
Cost: for one (1) hanger set (wire, J-Hook, clip, screw/shot)each $2.30


Regards
Peter Buitenhek
ProfitDeveloper.com

"Never settle for a job well done...always look for cost cutting measures

 

[notme11]

it looks good,The best way that I have found to quote is to go by on the ;last install you did do to the fact that prices change out here on a daily basis.
my estimates are as follows.
average cable run is 150ft.
time to complete a single cat 5E run including terminating and testing.1.25 hrs.
dual-1.5
triple-1.75
quads-2
for cat 6 add another .5hrs to the last estimate.
Fiber I buy preterminated and just mark it up.
when it comes to jacks and panels- I would ask what brand they want before I give them a price on that.
I walk the site, call in and get updated prices than mark it up 10%.
I have not lost money this way and the time it take to complete this is the same as havinn an exixting spreadsheet.

 

[LkEErie]

Wow. 10 percent? Labor 40% of total bid? Where do you guys work? Ten percent markup is an electrician's mindset.
Unless you get your jacks from Radio Shack, you are leaving money on the table.

Let's do a standard 150' run. Singly, it can take up to 3 hours, been there,done that, especialliy in existing contruction, but your labor factor is immediately oh 1.5 hours per run? Multi runs are 1 hour. COGS for that 150' run is about $20 for 5e PVC. That's about 1/6 the price at $120 per drop. So where do those huge numbers come from?
My labor is more like 2/3 the total bid.

LkEErie

 

[buitenhek]

Obviously there are also economies of scale. One drop is more expensive than averaging 36 drops if you include hangers and panels/blocks/management. Each project will be slightly different depending on the cable arrangement/hangers etc)but...on average:
1. 1 CAT6e cable (no hangers)
Pull cable (150')~ 0.7 hrs (42 minutes)= 77% of total labor
Terminate (both sides) ~0.07 hrs = 7%
Test & Doc (both sides) ~0.07 hrs = 7%
Faceplate ~ 9%
Install Price $115
For this bid 52% Material and 48% Labor
2. 1 cable (with hangers)
Pull 32%
term 3%
test/doc 3%
faceplate 4%
hangers 58%
Install Price $440
For this bid 70% Material and 30% Labor

Average these out (over years) and you get near some of the original numbers. Are you seeing these numbers where you are?
The intent of the original question is based on project overview parameters. On multiple projects, finance people/owners, should be able to quickly and graphically see how this project breakdown reflects on either industry/or their company profiles. If the cost/drop "seems" low then it might make sense to raise that number. But seeing that the $440/drop (with hangers) puts it way above what most people see as reasonable (try bidding that rate). You must have the big picture to make the "win" decision. What do you think?


Regards
Peter Buitenhek
ProfitDeveloper.com

"Never settle for a job well done...always look for cost cutting measures