We are running Win 2000 server and want to limit some of our 2000 pro clients as much as possible. We can do most of what we want through policy settings for that organizational unit but there are a couple of things we can't seem to do. Basically, all we want them to do is signon and show the desktop with just a short cut to the programs that we decide to put out there. I can do that by putting it under all users but when a new user signs on for the first time, they get some deafult programs under the start-programs like IE and Outlook express and some others. I can go in after they signon and clean them up but as new users come along, I would have to maintain it. Is there a way to not to show the programs option at all when they click on the Start button, only show shutdown? And, while we're at it, we'd like to not even show the recycle bin or my computer icon even though there is nothing in it anyway. Is there a way to do all of this so that each new user will be the same? Thanks, Joe