Help ME! with capturing with adobe 6.0!!!

[Guest_imported]

Ok here we go! I have a Compaq Presario computer, a Sony DCR-TRV130 camcorder, and a 1394 firewire Dazzle DV-Editor. i've been editing for about a year with Ulead Videostudio 4.0 SE so i know the basics. i just got adobe premiere 6.0 and i've been playing around with it to see how good it is and i liked it but when i started to try and capture with it, it doesnt show on the computer its just a black screen. So i have been trying everything to ttry and get it to work like re-installing the firewire card, and i check everything!!! i look to see if its installed right so i click on start-> settings-> control panel-> system-> device manager, then i see 1394 bus controller i click on it then it says Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller, so i really have no clue on what to do! i tryed all the basic stuff and none have worked for me so if someone can help me i would like that! thanks

 

[wmefkme]

As far as I understand, Premiere 6 does not support Texas Instruments. I have a Matrox card which is a trifle temperamental, when we had this problem we were told to update our Matrox drivers and NOT to disable Texas. This has worked for us and P.6 is wonderfull. Hope this helps;-)

 

[GEAK]

Sorry, this isn't assistance, it's just another plea for help on the same subject. I'm dropping an average of 45% with Premiere 6.01. This is unacceptable. Details follow...

I have a 1 GHz AMD Athlon Thunderbird running Windows 2000 Pro. The O/S was just recently installed (format & clean install) and I have all the latest drivers for all of my hardware. My computer has 512 mb system RAM, an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon graphics card (with 32 mb RAM), a Soundblaster Live! (64 bit) sound card and two hard drives: a 20 gb 7200 rpm drive for O/S and apps and a 40 gb 7200 rpm drive for digital video captures only.

I have two firewire cards (one made by pyro, the other by cicero) and two firewire cables (one came with the camcorder, the other came with the cicero card).

The camcorder I have is a Sony DCR-TRV230 - with analog and i.Link (firewire) output. For capture software I've been using MGI VideoWave 3.5, Ulead VideoStudio 4.1 and Adobe Premiere 6.01. I always make sure that I restart the computer before capturing and then I shut down all unnecessary applications (networking is disabled, virus scan is disabled...).

I only recently learned that VideoWave and VideoStudio capture "type 1" DV which means 360x240 @ 29.97 fps (it is rendered in post-processing to 720x480) whereas Premiere captures "type 2" DV (true 720x480 @ 29.97 fps).

I typically drop 0.5 to 1.5% of frames with VideoWave. My drop rates increase with VideoStudio to between 1 and 3%. With Premiere, I'm averaging 45% dropped frames.

I have talked to a few people about this and they assure me that with the system I have I shouldn't be dropping any frames (they have lesser systems and they get 0 dropped frames). Incidentally, I've captured analog video using my graphics card - doing realtime compression I've captured with resolutions up to 640x480 and dropped less than .5%

I am at a loss... Can anyone suggest other things that might be causing my high drop rates? Or better still, suggest a solution to my dropped frames?

 

[Guest_imported]

With the release of Adobe Premiere 6.0, Adobe has focused on making digital video editing as simple as possible. All you need is an IEEE-1394 card, a DV camera and a fast enough hard drive with enough space to store your footage, and you are on your way to creating rich media content for the Internet. Well, almost….

In the current release of Adobe Premiere 6.0 for Windows, the software will only work with IEEE-1394 cards that support the Microsoft DV Class driver. I spent a great deal of the last weekend trying to find an IEEE-1394 that used the Microsoft driver. Guess what? Ninety percent of the third-party IEEE-1394 cards use the native Texas Instruments driver, thus making the card unrecognizable in Premiere. There is a workaround that MAY work in your system. This is the solution that worked for me, and MAY also work for many of you who have been asking how to solve the problem on the Adobe forum.

Note: If you use Sony's iLink, there is a patch available on the Adobe site that will let you switch between the Sony driver and Microsoft. Of course, if you are on a Mac, you should have no troubles with Apple FireWire. Also note that I have had no problems capturing audio/video with analog capture cards like the Osprey 500 from Viewcast.com.

For Windows 2000 and Win98
It might be helpful to uninstall Adobe Premiere first so when you reload, it recognizes the IEEE-1394 card.

Under the Device Manager, find your IEEE-1394 card. On Win98, it might show up under Sounds/Video/Game Controllers. On Windows 2000, it showed up on my systems as Texas Instruments IEEE-1394 Controller located on the root.
Delete the card and drivers. If you see DV Camera under Sounds/Video Game Controller, delete it as well. Windows should tell you it is uninstalling the card and the drivers.
To be sure that the drivers are gone, do a search and delete the following files from your system
DVCam.inf
DVCam.sys
DVCam.pnf
This will definitely remove the offending TI drivers from your system.
The computer will need to be rebooted. Instead of doing a restart, shut the computer down completely.
Connect your DV Camera to the IEEE-1394 card and turn it on in VCR mode.
Restart your computer
After booting, Windows should find new hardware and try to install it. For me the first thing it found was an OHCI Compliant IEEE-1394 card (the Microsoft drivers). The second thing it found was the Texas Instruments IEEE-1394 card. Curses!
Go ahead and let it reinstall the TI drivers at this time even though it seems it defeats the purpose of the previous uninstall. What has happened here is Windows has installed the Microsoft drivers before the Texas Instruments drivers.
If you have Windows 2000 and your IEEE-1394 card shows up on the root level, open it, right click on the driver and open the properties window. For Win98, look for the driver in the Sounds/Video/Game Controller directory.
Update the Driver. Windows should then do a search of your computer and say the current driver works, but it has found others which may also work for this device.
Go ahead and choose to install another driver. You should see the OHCI Compliant driver in the list. Install this one instead. This is the driver we need.
You will need to reboot your system, but when it comes back up, you will see an OHCI Compliant IEEE-1394 card in the place of the Texas Instruments one.
Reinstall Adobe Premiere 6.0 (if you uninstalled it) and you should be good to go.
Like I said, this is the method that worked for me, and hopefully will work for you too. If you are using Pinnacle Systems' line of capture cards, you should contact Pinnacle directly if you are having problems. There is a patch available for the DC1000/2000 line, but it still may not resolve problems.

 

[GEAK]

Thanks for the detailed response, I managed to fix the problem with my situation before having to resort to your solution.

What solved the problem for me was a hardware reconfiguration. Originally, the two hard-drives that I had installed on my computer, were both on the same IDE channel (20 gb 7200 rpm drive was primary master, 40 gb 7200 rpm drive was primary slave) and I had a CDR on the other channel (secondary master). I disconnected and rearranged the drives so that the 20 gb and CDR were together and the 40 gb (capture drive) was alone on the secondary IDE channel.

I'm not sure that I fully understand how this solved the problem, but I'm satisfied that it has. Since the reconfiguration, I haven't dropped any frames - regardless of the program I'm using to capture with.

I hope this helps someone... if anyone can explain why it solves the problem (in lay terms), I'd appreciate hearing it.

 

[LordSauce]

I know it's a few months since this thread went dead, but I came across it from a Google search.

The reason it's bad to have the video capture drive as the slave on the same IDE channel as the main drive is that an IDE channel can only access one drive at a time. If, halfway through reading a captured video file from the video drive, the system needs to access a file on the main drive (the swapfile? the application? the OS?) then it has to stop reading from the video drive, so frames get dropped.

If the video drive is master on the second IDE channel and the main drive is master on the primary channel then video and OS/application/swapfile can be read at the same time, with no break in video. Unfortunately this can cause problems with CD-R and CD-RW drives, as these often prefer to be master on their IDE channel, but the problems can be minimised by making sure the CD drives are on a separate channel from the hard drive they are reading from.

 

[Guest_imported]

hi everyone, hope u guys still check this thread coz i have the same problem but none of the solutions you all have suggested have worked for me. i have a pci ohci IEEE-1394 controller and i have only one 40gb hard disk drive. my comp is pretty fast i think, 1.7ghz amd athalon thunderbird, 256mb ram and using win98. issit becos i have the os and capture drive in the same hard disk? i'm not that good with computers so i really need help!!!! =P many many thanks if u guys can help!

 

[Guest_imported]

hi everyone, hope u guys still check this thread coz i have the same problem but none of the solutions you all have suggested have worked for me. i have a pci ohci IEEE-1394 controller and i have only one 40gb hard disk drive. my comp is pretty fast i think, 1.7ghz amd athalon thunderbird, 256mb ram and using win98. issit becos i have the os and capture drive in the same hard disk? i'm not that good with computers so i really need help!!!! =P many many thanks if u guys can help!

 

[Guest_imported]

moonine, you're not alone in hoping someone has other ideas on this subject (and is still checking this thread). my problem may be even more fundamental. i've used both window xp's movie maker and Ulead to capture from my Sony DCR-PC7 Mini-dv video cam to a Pyro card and I have yet to get a download that didn't drop 45-50%(!) of the frames. i have dual hard drives too but it doesn't seem to matter which drive the download is to.

someone told me to try Adobe Premier's trial download, but alas, to no avail either (but i don't know if that's because of its thing with TI as aforementioned).

am i missing something even more basic here?

 

[Tega]

I noticed this thread and thought I would drop in out of the blue and ask a totally stupid question...how does one decide which capture card to buy? Why would I pay a thousand CDN$$$ for Pinnacles DV500 versus 100$$$ for say something from Dazzle? I have a solid system and I have premiere 6 and for the first time i have to capture from a digital camcorder(Sony's DCR-VX2000). The end result is not for the web but for a documentary film contest. Can anyone give me some advice?

 

[Guest_imported]

I have the Pinnacle DV Studio 7 which has a firewire IEEE card. I dual boot Windows 98se and Windows XP pro.
In Win98se I loaded Studio 7 and Adobe Premiere 6.01 everything works great. I loaded the same setup in Windows XP pro. Studio 7 works but Adobe Premiere 6.01 shows a blank black screen when trying to preview footage from my DV JVC Cam. Here is the funny part when I click 'Capture' the video footage appears?

Please Help

JRH

 

[Guest_imported]

I am new to video editing. I am using an ati TV wonder VE and adobe premier 6.0. I can capture video no problem but I can figure out how to get the audio.

the scenerio:
the ATI card has S-video and RCA lett and right. I am captureing from a Hi8 camera. The card then has a line out to my Soundblaster extegy card which I connectd to the line in. But i recieve no SOUND!!! I get funny signal spikes. I know the line out / in work becasue the ATI TV player has sound.

Other computer specs if helpfull.
Athlon XP 2100
1GB DDR333
Asus A7V333 mobo
RAID 0 7200rpm drives (160GB total)
ATI Radeon 8500
ATI TV wonder VE

 

[Guest_imported]

well just to let you guys know, i am using the adaptec fireConnect 4300 pci card, and i am on a 800mhz pentium, using ati all it one wonder 32mb. i have no problems capturing audio and video. 0 frames droped.

 

[sonic]

I captured some clips from my Sony Digital camera and save in clips. Then I try to bring them to Source Window and trim and drag the clip to the Programme window and prview and the same time it was placed in the timeline. When I try to bring a another clip to source window the system crash and I get a message that
"DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL"

Some times When I bring the first clip itself the system crash and I get the same message. Here is my System:
P4-2.0
512DDR, 60gig HD, Matrox G550, and running on Windows XP.
Can anyone help me with this please.
pt775@hotmail.com

 

[pt775]

Adobe Premier 6.0 : I captured some clips from my Sony Digital video camera and save in clips. Then I try to bring them to Source Window and trim and drag the clip to the Programme window and prview and the same time it was placed in the timeline. When I try to bring a another clip to source window the system crash and I get a message that
"DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL"

Some times When I bring the first clip itself the system crash and I get the same message. Here is my System:
P4-2.0
512DDR, 60gig HD, Matrox G550, and running on Windows XP.
Can anyone help me with this please.
pt775@hotmail.com

 

[bruceadam]

Help! I cannot get Premiere to download and I hope that I don't have to go to some of the extremes most recently listed. I have Windows XP-Pro, dual chips with Premiere 6.0 on both my hard drive & SCSI's, with a Pyro card & TI firewire, and a Canon DV camcorder. Video will download into MS Producer and Movie Maker but not into Premiere (it did ONE time, which has kept me coming back for more, which is I think hopeless). I can follow the instructions to disable the TI firewire driver and install another. Is the consensus that this might still be the needed remedy? Thanks.

 

[Guest_imported]

Hi I´ve the same problem with my DCR-TRV230. I can´t find the settings to control this camera on to premiere. Do you know were I can find this settings? I´ve a Matrox RT2500 capture card on a PC with WD ultra ata drives.

I´ll be very greadful for your help