Okay it appears we may ahve/had some issues with our datbase. Speaking with arcserve, but looking for outside help. WE have about 176 or so security cat files in our tmp folder. I tried merging to no avail still getting a permissioin error (unable to access database) Now originally I thought this was easliy fixed because about a month or 2 ago we changed all the service accounts and th arserve share was still linked to the old account. It has since been changed and I tried to merge those files to no avail. CA is going to have me reini. part of the databse tomorrow, but I am course looking around for advice. The thing that had keyed me into something possibly being wrong is missing version history. Any help will be much much appreciated. Thanks again.....