Have tried two different motherboards- sys out of range

[xaggroth]

Ok, well I recently aquired a computer from a close relative who said that it was having problems with it. The first time, the hard drive had died, no more than 2 weeks later, the computer wouldn't even boot properly.
Here is what happens/has happened:
I turn it on with the old motherboard installed, it sounds like it's booting, hard drive comes on for a bit but then shuts off and all I saw was "sys out of range" message. I continued to boot it and recieved slightly varied messages showing current hz range then what it needed to be.
NOte for this, the computer DID NOT show any sign of loading dos or anything of the sort. I've tried f1-f12, del, ctrl, alt etc.

I believed the motherboard to be the problem so I bought a new one of the same type (on board video with agp video support slot) After I installed it and placed the processor in and started it, I recieved about 3 beeping sounds before it didn't do anything at all. Same case as the last only this time nothing comes up on the screen. I've tried various monitors, and 2 old pci video cards and one fairly new agp card to no avail. I even tried streaming video out using the Svideo on the card with no luck. If possible please point me in some direction!!
-Xag

 

[felixc]

3 beeps? Verify the sticker on the BIOS chip on your mobo. It tells who the firmware maker is. Then google a bit to find a place where the beep codes are listed for this BIOS maker. It will give you a better idea of what's going on.

It can be the DRAM modules that do not pass the self test, or any peripheral card.

Try resetting the CMOS, too. Then it will load the "safe" values and it may work fine afterwards.

 

[xaggroth]

Thank you, but I just don't get any video at all, I've tried resetting bios and such, with no luck, and the computer recongnizes when I remove the memory or the hard drives. As for the beeps, it only happened when I started it the first two times (the beeps being long and drawn out), after that any atempts to try and bring up anything on any of the monitors has failed Just a Black Screen.

 

[felixc]

How do you know that the computer sees when there is no hard drive or no memory? What happens then?

But now there are no beeps and no video? Like if the system does not even go into self test?

 

[xaggroth]

ok, it will make the error beep/noise when the memory or hd is not hooked up. Other than that though, the screen remains blank and does not even self test let alone boot up.

 

[micker377]

Have you tried "square one"? That's placing the motherboard on an insulated surface (box it came in), hook up power supply - one memory stick - CPU with fan - monitor. You should get a screen with errors. If still no screen, then memory or CPU is bad. Try both motherboards.

 

[xaggroth]

thank you I'll try that

 

[Frank4d]

The out of range error is frequently caused by video card, driver, and/or settings incompatibility.

You mentioned the new MOBO has on-board video. Try that with no PCI or AGP video cards).

Hitting "F8" continuously (with "F-lock" turned on first if your keyboard has this feature) should allow you to boot in safe mode or VGA mode. If that works, go to device manager and change the display adapter driver to "standard VGA". See if the PC boots normally on next boot. From there you should be able to install the correct drivers for the onboard video.

If you want to use add on video cards later, some BIOS automatically detect them. On others, you may need to go to BIOS and disable on-board video. You need to resolve the out of range error first.

 

[xaggroth]

felixc was on the right track I think.. The computer just won't desplay anything .. ie. can't boot up because you can't see anything, thus no way to change the settings.
I'll try placing it on the box and getting it to work that way, otherwise I'm just going to get a new mobo and cpu.. a different kind from a different vendor..

 

[xaggroth]

After going through and disconnecting everything possible, I now get the same error message on both motherboards, both the new and old one:

Freq out of range
FH: 27.95 kHz
FV: 62.00 Hz


Things I'm almost sure of:
1. It does NOT boot up
2. Goes Directly to that screen
Is their any way it could be the processor? or did I just happen to get two bad mobos by some odd chance?

 

[micker377]

Is this reading (posted), with the on-board video? If so, reset the BIOS (jumper on the mobo?). It sounds like a resolution problem. The "I've tried various monitors", were these Standard VGA or Super VGA? The video out socket - is it two rows of contacts, or three rows?

 

[xaggroth]

It has on board video and can support both PCI and AGP video cards. When either cards are thrown in, nothing appears on the screen. I reset the jumper with no effect, the monitor still showed the same problem. As for the monitors, I've tried one lcd 17" (vga) and then 3 other monitors all with the standard vga connectors. The video out socket on the one video card has 2 rows of the pins. Note, it has also worked on previous occasions in different computers connecting to various tvs.
Now, time for me to get back to work on the devil!
Any other ideas or suggestions are appreciated! thanks~

 

[micker377]

The reason I keep stressing about the type of monitor, is that I have one client with a wierd (resolution), video setup. Rather than reset the system [I'd have to reset it again back in the office], I use an old "Multisync" monitor that reads any resolution. No other monitor will work on this system. What video pin layout do you have on the built-in video socket?

 

[xaggroth]

I don't know, but this multisync monitor, I may have one in my basement... (I've got around 9 monitors of various age)
What does one look like? or Where can I get one?

 

[micker377]

I don't know why it's special. It's just an old "Voxon II" that I pull out (it has a bad plug - green keeps coming and going),when I have a unit with resolution problems.

 

[xaggroth]

mm thank you, oh and is there any possibility this issue could be caused by the processor?

 

[micker377]

Do you get any different message (on the monitor), with the monitor disconnected from the computer? This will depend on the hardware in the monitor. My current monitor (when disconnected), says "No Signal - Check Cable".

 

[xaggroth]

Yes, they either give me the no signal message or a color test sorta image

 

[Simonk1974]

when you plug the monitor into one of your video cards (Not the onboard) do you disable the onboard video in your BIOS - it may be that your resolution that is set on your onboard video is to high or out of range for the monitor - try plugging the monitor into an AGP/PCI card and disable your onboard video - the other option is to plug in another hard drive with windows installed on it and see if that boots up. I dont think the problem has anything to do you with your CPU