Hanging Indents 4

[webrabbit]

Using Word 2002, I get my fingers tangled up and end up with a hanging indent. I then have to go to "Format", "Paragraph", and unclick "Hanging Indents". What key-stroke is doing this and can I undo it by doing that key-stroke again? Note that the hanging indent doesn't appear until the paragraph exceeds one line, so it doesn't appear the instant I enter that key-stroke, whatever it is.

 

[cmeagan656]

Keyboard shortcuts for Word 2002:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290938

AFAIK, there is know easy way to undo it except by using CTRL+Z but you have to CTRL+Z back to the point that you entered the keyboard shortcut thus losing everything that you had typed up after invoking the hanging indent.

Hope this helps.

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[TonyJollans]

Ctrl+T is the keyboard shortcut for a hanging indent.

Ctrl+Q is the shortcut to Reset the paragraph - but this may remove more than just a hanging indent in some cases (although possibly not usually in the circumstances you describe).

Enjoy,
Tony

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[webrabbit]

Thanks guys.

 

[tf1]

Additonal to Tony's keyboard shortcuts that may help:

Ctrl+Shft+T is Undo hanging indent.


Regards: Terry

 

[TonyJollans]

Of course, Terry!! It's, oh, so easy to ignore the obvious. If my half of the solution is worth a star, your half is too

Enjoy,
Tony

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[tf1]

Cheers.


Regards: Terry

 

[fumei]

Use Styles.

Gerry

 

[tf1]

Was that an echo I heard!!!


Regards: Terry

 

[webrabbit]

Styles is way too complicated for what I do.

 

[fumei]

Styles (IMO) are never too complicated for anything.

Gerry

 

[tf1]

Gerry is right though. Once you have created a style, it is never more than a keystroke away for ever. So the few minutes you utilise creating a style becomes time saved forever.

Even if you only ever just write a few letter, a template for your letter and another for your envelopes is great invested time.


Regards: Terry

 

[fumei]

And besides...you can not avoid styles. ALL text - all of it - in a Word document has a style. It is impossible to have text that does not have a style attached.

Gerry

 

[webrabbit]

How does styles keep me from pressing ctrl-T by accident?

 

[SkipVought]

...or stiking his finger into an electic receptacle by accident?

Skip,

_{Just traded in my old subtlety...
for a NUANCE!}

 

[fumei]

Well...true. It does not. However, Ctrl-t is not exactly a common configuration for casual typing...no?

Besides, this is also against the real basis for using Word (and one that admitedly I have rarely seen).

People tend to format things as they go. Font, font size, indents etc etc. People tend to want to see the format real-time as it were.

However, once you function in a 100% Style structure, you realize...you do not need to format as you go.

I type text. It does not matter if it is a heading (of various formats and indents), a bullet-point, basic (main) text...whatever.

I type the text, and hit Enter (assuming it is in fact a terminating paragraph).

I do NO formatting. For example (from a course catalog I am working on):

.NET Learning Program
NET 101: Building Applications in IITB Using Object Oriented Principles
For course dates see Calendar
Who Should Attend – IITB technology professionals who want to familiarize themselves with the Visual Studio .NET Integrated Development Environment; or IITB technology professionals who want an introduction to .NET application development using formal object oriented techniques. Previous experience in a structured programming environment is required.
Qualification Questions
I know what a variable is and how to initialise one
I know what a loop is and I have a general idea of how to implement a looping structure
I know what an if statement is and I have a general idea of how to implement a conditional structure
I know what compilation is and what is does
I want to learn about the .NET framework and it use in application development scenarios.
Duration – 2 days
Objectives – This course will provide all IITB programmers with the solid understanding of the use of Object Oriented Programming techniques.

This goes on for 200 pages BTW. Just text. NO format (indent or font attributes). NO spacing between paragraphs (those "extra" paragraphs). Why? Because ALL formatting is by Styles.

It is hard to duplicate things here, but (say) I can grab all the "I know..." paragraphs and hit Alt-c1 - c1 for Course Topics Level 1 - and voila they are all formatted precisely, exactly, the way I have designed the CourseTopics style.

The point being is that I do that AFTER I have typed/entered the text. The point being is that I separate content - the text, from the format.

This is, BTW, a very very very old point-of-contention in the publishing world. Form versus Content.

I come decidely on the Content side. My feeling is that you have very pretty crap...but if it is crap content, it is still just pretty crap.

Further, by concentrating on WHAT you have as content (the text), one tends to end up being much more lean and clean when it comes to form (format).

One of the pains in the butt I have dealt with in 30 years of technical writing, is that people working on documents doing manual formatting make different decisions in different places in a document. Someone working in one area decides headings should be Bold and 18 pts, indented 0.5".

Someone decides (in a different area) that they should be 16 pts.

Thus...different FORM.

Once you use Styles fully, you tend to have fewer differences.

I am ranting. Sorry. I shall stop now. My apologies.


Yes, it is true. You can still hit Ctrl-T accidentally. So yes, being able to back up immediately with a Ctrl-Shift-T is handy.

Except in my documents I have:

Sub HangingIndent()
End Sub

which means...hitting Ctrl-T (by accident or otherwise) does....nothing. I never do manual formatting, thus I do not need Ctrl-T to make a manual format hanging indent, and thus...I disable it.



darn. sorry.

Gerry

 

[webrabbit]

Well, I'm not doing technical writing, I'm writing short stories. Just paragraphs with a title at the beginning. I learned to type in '59. There were only 57 keys on the keyboard, instead of 103. I still say styles is way too complicated for me. I have no idea what that "sub" stuff means.

BTW, at one job, I happened to work next to a technical writer. He had been doing technical writing on IBM terminals for 20 years. When a terminal that was capable of accepting and displaying lower case text became available to him, he found it to be "way too complicated".

 

[fumei]

Point taken.

Although I write short stories as well, and poetry (Japanese renga)...and even for a little bit of text, I still use styles. Styles are in (on?) every single piece of text in a Word document, be it 10 words, 1000 pages, prose, poetry, letters, resumes, or technical writing. Styles are how Word works.

Gerry

 

[Markus4]

Hi:

Webrabbit: Would you please be so kind to post a link to the keyboard layout of '59? I'm really curious.
Because I learned to type in '74 on typewriters with 44 keys, a luxurious typewriter would have 46 keys. Both of them would include the German umlauts and the "ß".

Fumei: This post seems to be getting more private. One question kept nagging me: where has your homepage gone? I think that in earlier posts, years ago, you had a link to "My paintings...". Neither link nor site is there today.
Is there a way to see your actual work?

Thanks to both of you in advance.

Markus

 

[webrabbit]

I was wrong. 44 keys is probably right. That was a long time ago.