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Frontpage theme and webbot 2

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seaport

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I am learning Frontpage 2000 and HTML.

I do not think FrontPage theme and FrontPage Webbot are part of HTML language. Therefore, I wonder whether the web site I created with FrontPage theme and webbot can run on Unix server.

Frontpage theme and webbot do make the web design easier. But I feel kind of lost of control of the web site. For example, I can never figure out how to customize the shared borders, since they are controlled by "Webbots" and there is no HTML codes for these shared boraders.

I know I can use frame to build shared borders. But I do not like frame. Is there any other way to build shared borders?

Do I have to use the same code on every page to build the shared borders? If I have to do this, it is just too difficult to maintain the web site.

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First of all, the "theme" is an extra meta tag that frontpage puts in. I don't know why it does, because the only people that will ever know what your theme is anyway, is if they view source your page.

I'm not sure what you mean by shared borders. Frontpage puts in its own "webbots" for using forms, at least thats what I thought. I dunno, I'm a raw HTML kinda guy. What's the url to your page? Once I see the code, I can solve all your problems. :) ~Javrix

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Javrix,

Thanks for your response.

Shared borders means the top, left, bottom, or maybe right part of a web page, which is same for many pages, just like the top part of Tek-tips forums pages. I think this term is created by Frontpage.

It will not do any good if I send you the web page. There is no HTML code about these shared boards. All buttons and links in the shared boards seem to be manipulated by an invisible hand. I do not like this since I want to control the web site all by my codes, HTML or something else.

So, my real question is: how to create and maintain the top, left, and bottom part of every page of the web site efficiently, since they are all the same.

The following is the body part of the top.htm page, which is the top part of every page of the web site.

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<body bgcolor=&quot;#FFFFFF&quot; text=&quot;#000000&quot; link=&quot;#993333&quot; vlink=&quot;#333399&quot; alink=&quot;#006633&quot;><!--mstheme--><font face=&quot;Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica&quot;>


<p><img src=&quot;../images/logo.gif&quot;
alt=&quot;[Company Logo Image]&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;120&quot; height=&quot;24&quot;>
<!--webbot bot=&quot;PurpleText&quot;
preview=&quot;-- replace with your logo image&quot; --> </p>



<p>
<!--webbot bot=&quot;Navigation&quot; s-type=&quot;global&quot; b-include-home=&quot;T&quot; b-include-up=&quot;T&quot; S-Orientation S-Rendering U-Page S-Target startspan --><!--webbot bot=&quot;Navigation&quot; endspan i-checksum=&quot;0&quot; -->
</p>
<p>
<!--webbot bot=&quot;Navigation&quot; s-type=&quot;banner&quot; S-Orientation S-Rendering B-Include-Home B-Include-Up U-Page S-Target startspan --><!--webbot bot=&quot;Navigation&quot; endspan i-checksum=&quot;0&quot; -->
<br>
<!--webbot bot=&quot;Navigation&quot; s-type=&quot;siblings&quot; S-Orientation S-Rendering B-Include-Home B-Include-Up U-Page S-Target startspan --><!--webbot bot=&quot;Navigation&quot; endspan i-checksum=&quot;0&quot; -->
</p>


<p> </p>

<!--mstheme--></font></body>
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Now I remember why I didn't like frontpage that much, it puts in a million codes for a simple task. Ok, I think I understand this &quot;shared borders&quot; thing. It's actually an image. This image is a fancy curvy line. The trick is to make this fancy curvy line go throughout your entire page, right? I'm still not 100% sure.

If you just want to control the top left right and bottom of the page, I'm a assuming you mean a gap, then in your body tag, you can put in a topmargin=&quot;5&quot; leftmargin=&quot;5&quot; (replace 5 with whatever you want). There is no right or bottom margin code.

Hope I got what you meant. If not, keep trying! :) ~Javrix

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A roomful of monkeys on typwriters will eventually write the great american novel.

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If you want to code your own page, you can create a template with a program like homesite or some other html editor and have your top / bottom and left borders already created using images and other html elements. Once you create your template, you can use it over and over so all of your pages are the same.

I used FP for a while - man was i ever ill then. Anyway, you can use it to create your template if you like. You can use the elements from the template - they should be stored in a template directory under your front page directory and then create your master template.

I believe that the use of master templates and pure html coding is the way to go. It doesn't prevent you from using your fp to generate the template, just remember you need to use the elements of the template.

Hope this helped.
 
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I agree with using template pages as well but Instead of using Shared borders use Include Pages.
Create each page Top, Botton, Left, Just like when you are doing frames.
In Front Page
In Page view, position the insertion point where you want to include a page.
On the Insert menu, point to Component, and then click Insert Page.
In the Page to include box, type the relative URL of the page to include, or click Browse to find the file.

I do not suggest using shared borders.
 
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