well its hard to explain with no example....it is done in frames...ex: there are 2 frames one on top and one on bottom the top one will have a picture that is roughly 4500pixles wide the bottom one will have a navagation area in it to control the scrolling of the top frame without the use of a scrollbar.....if i'm not explaining this well enough let me know...the navagation will be done using an image map. well...on the event that someone clicks a button(which will be part of a image map) it will make the entire frame move to the left or to the right depending on the button clicked... something a long the lines of on event scroll+500 or on event click scroll -500 something like that, this would then trigger the above page to move to right or to the left...the reason for no scroll bar is to give it some style and fuctionality....just for looks...i hope i'm explaining this well enough...i only have a very basic understanding of javascript so creating this script is way out of my league but i have seen it done before...so i know its possible