FP2002-Text size- Where can I find "MsoNormal" 1

[chris0001]

I accidentally discovered from the code on one of my pages that the text formatted with "MsoNormal" did not resize in browsers.

Being a novice web designer using FP 2002 and without time to learn how to hard code, this seems for me to be the easiest way solve my resizing problem.

Yet I can't find it on the formatting drop down box.

How can I get to it, and is it appropriate to use for consistent results in the current browsers?

Thanks, Chris

 

[cian]

I'm not sure if many FP users hang-out here, too scared to i think ;-)

If you don't get an answer here try:

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http://www.frontpagetalk.com/forums/default.asp

http://www.frontpageworld.com/frontpage.htm

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[chris0001]

Thanks! I might have figured it out. Some of my pages were first created in Word and then either cut/paste or saved as html. It might be those pages that bring in the Mso.normal formatting.

I'll check out the other forums.

 

[ChrisHunt]

If you post a snippet of the HTML, or better still the URL of the page, we might be able to help you. Like cian says, we're not exactly fans of FP on this forum!

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[chris0001]

Thanks Chris. I'm beginning to understand why...but I still have a few hairs left!

I created a Word doc, formatted in Footlight MT Light, then cut/paste into web page. Here is a sample of the code. It does refer to the Footlight font, and it also does not resize when I preview in Explorer 6. Haven't posted the redesign, so I can't provide you w/link.

<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD align=left vAlign=top height=&quot;167&quot; width=&quot;422&quot;>
<p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;>
<span style=&quot;font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Footlight MT Light&quot;&quot;>
You, too, can enjoy the beauty of lakes, rivers and rolling ......... etc.

Linda (programmer in the FP forum said), &quot;... You are probably better off using standard fonts, like Times New Roman or Arial because everyone has those on their computer, plus they will work on browsers other than Explorer...&quot;

Do you see a problem...perhaps with non-Microsoft computers)? Or would the problem be with Footlight font?

It's the easiest way to accomplish what I want.
Appreciate the help.

 

[Wullie]

<p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;>

Look for a CSS class that matches this, it is not a font.

<span style=&quot;font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Footlight MT Light&quot;&quot;>

I don't think I even have this font on windows. (Oh, and the 2 sets of quotes are invalid HTML

Hope this helps

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[viol8ion]

I agree 100% with Linda. There are standard fonts that should be used if you want people to view the website as you designed it. The 2 fonts you have mentioned are not part of my collection, and it is doubtful that most users would have them installed. Arial, Helvetica, Times Roman are basically sure bets.

<font face=&quot;Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot;> is some sample code to ensure that your web page will view correctly cross-platfrom, even if someone has deleted a standard font.

Also, witht his code:
<TD align=left vAlign=top height=&quot;167&quot; width=&quot;422&quot;>
delete the height, as that is not a supported current HTML standard, you don't need it.



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[cian]

&quot;<font face=&quot;Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot;> &quot;

No I have to disagree, the fonts are fine but don't use the <font> tag!






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[ChrisHunt]

Frumppage using CSS classes instead of a squillion <font> tags, what is the world coming to?

Like Wullie says, this is a CSS instruction. To find (and/or change) how it's defined, look in the <head> of your document. You should hopefully find a line something like
[tt]
<link rel=&quot;stylesheet&quot; type=&quot;text/css&quot; href=&quot;somefile.css&quot;>
[/tt]
which identifies an external stylesheet file that contains all your CSS definitions. Since it's C*ntPage, however, they're probably defined inline at the head of each page like this:
[tt]
<style>
.msoNormal { font-size: 10pt; }
.msoBig { font-size: 20pt; }
</style>
[/tt]
Once you've found it, you can change the properties of msoNormal to include all sorts of things. Font size is a tricky issue, I advise you to use one of the &quot;named&quot; font sizes - but see

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sizematters/

for a work-around you'll need for IE5.

With fonts, there's no reason why you shouldn't specify whatever font you like - provided you offer alternatives. The font-family command can specify a series of fonts, like this:
[tt]
.msoNormal { font-family: &quot;Footlight MT Light&quot;, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif }
[/tt]
The browser works it's way down the list until it finds one that's installed on the client machine. The last choice is a generic font (others are: serif, cursive, fantasy and monospace) which tells the browser to use it's default sans serif font.

If you really want people to see the page in your choice of font, try embedding it (see faq215-4042 ). It only works in IE, unfortunately, but it's kinda neat.

I'd strongly advise you to learn more about hand-coding HTML, it doesn't take long to learn the basics.

http://www.w3schools.com

is a good learning and reference site popular on this forum. New, and perhaps less daunting for the beginner, is

http://www.htmldog.com

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[chris0001]

Thank you All for your time and interest. I'll work with this info and see where it takes me.