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[Sleidia]

Hi again

Does someone has in mind the urls of great looking websites with all the following characteristics put together? :

- Full CSS
- Navigation being CSS/HTML only (no Flash)
- Lots of Flash animations scattered here and there in the CSS based layout.

Thanks for the help

 

[Vragabond]

[google]css gallery[/google]

That wasn't too hard now, was it?

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[Sleidia]

If it was that easy, I wouldn't have asked.

Problem is either they are full CSS (no animations) or full Flash (no css).

I need a mix of both wich is VERY difficult to find.
I've searched during the last two hours with no luck.

 

[chrissie1]

http://www.europeantour.com

but they could be java and not flash. And anyway you don't want flash.

Wow, only two hours.

Christiaan Baes
Belgium

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[Sleidia]

Thanks ... but this one is not professional enough in term of design.

I want Flash as animations (lots of them) but not as links/navigation.

I think I should have asked on a designers' forum, not on a programmers' one ehehe

 

[chrissie1]

So you don't want us to say that lot's of animation on a site is bad?

Christiaan Baes
Belgium

"My old site" - Me

 

[BillyRayPreachersSon]

Try the site for Oyster Strategic Design, a great design agency based in Melbourne, Auckland, and London. We work closely with then to do their web development.

http://www.oyster.net.au/

The site uses a fully CSS-based layout, with validating Flash Satay used for the Flash banners.

Dan



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[Sleidia]

Thanks Billy

But this one won't do it because I see no Flash animations embedded in the layout

What I'm looking for is a full CSS layout that gives the impression it's a full Flash layout. So, a CSS layout with CSS navigation but with many Flash animations seamlessly embedded in the design on all the pages.

 

[BillyRayPreachersSon]

I don't see why you can't simply create your layout using placeholder DIVs of the right size for your Flash movies, and them insert them using the Flash Satay example.

Give it a go - surely you don't need to see someone else's site to be able to do that?

Dan



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[Sleidia]

Sure

But I needed a couple of URLs fast in order to show a new client what kind of result he can expect with a CSS/Flash based layout.

The sites he likes, and that he showed me, are 100% Flash (with lots of animations) and I wanted to stir him away from this idea because my custom CMS can't manage full Flash sites.

Since my laziness have always kept me away from Flash, I haven't such sites in my portfolio.

 

[Foamcow]

I built this a long time ago,

http://www

. targetgroup . co . uk

(take the spaces out of the link)
but since I left the company it's been taken over so I can't
vouch for the code quality if it's been changed.

It uses Flash animations on most pages and also uses Image replacement techniques to render the <hn> tags as images on the fly.

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[Foamcow]

Hehe, yes. I just looked at some pages that were added or edited by someone else and they even mark up a simple paragraph of text wrong.

Love the thick blue border around the client logos too.

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[Foamcow]

Show him Gucci.com, that doesn't use any Flash.

But I needed a couple of URLs fast in order to show a new client what kind of result he can expect with a CSS/Flash based layout.

Surely you are approaching this the wrong way?
Shouldn't the layout/design be developed to meet the requirements of the client/brief?
How it's actually constructed shouldn't even be an issue to the client. That's your job to solve.
All you can do is explain the pros and cons of all Flash layouts.

Like BRPS says, why can't you just split the layout into multiple boxes or areas and apply flash as needed? Why does this require you showing a bunch of someone elses sites as 'this is what you could haves'?

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[Sleidia]

The requirement of the client is : lots of animations. As simple as that.

Anyway, since I didn't have a layout to show off, I had to explain him that he won't be able to use a CMS with a full Flash site. So, he now has to decide whether or not he wants a CMS.

But you know, a good layout speaks better than words.

BTW, the gucci site is crap.
Good graphics but awful animations (it barely moves on my computer). The old version was far better.

 

[LNBruno]

But I needed a couple of URLs fast in order to show a new client what kind of result he can expect with a CSS/Flash based layout.

So you're trying to sell a client on using you/your services based on work done by someone else?

Maybe you should post your question here and see what responses you get:

http://www.tek-tips.com/threadminder.cfm?pid=717

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[Sleidia]

Never read such a cheap shot before.
Thanks for the laugh

 

[traingamer]

But you know, a good layout speaks better than words.

I disagree. Good content should drive the layout and be complemented by it.

Does your client have specific animations in mind or simply want lots of animations? Be sure to remind them of the potentially huge bandwidth requirements of some animation.


Greg
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[Sleidia]

Be sure to remind them of the potentially huge bandwidth requirements of some animation.

Since it's possible to makre great vector based animations that take few kilobytes, there is no need to tell a client such a thing. It's the designer's job to make great looking things that aren't bandwidth eaters. Nothing too difficult,

I disagree. Good content should drive the layout and be complemented by it.

Read my post again and you will understand your mistake.
I was writing about how to give a potential client a clear view of what could be achieved with a certain mix of technologies (Flash + CSS).


Anyway, the purpose of this thread was to find websites that beautifully/efficiently mix CSS and Flash together, CSS for navoigation and layout, Flash for animations. I find it pointless to argue about this and that. Well, you can if you want but I'm not interested

 

[traingamer]

Can't say that I do understand.

In any case, Dan and Foamcow had what seem to be pretty decent suggestions.

Best of luck with it.

Greg
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