Enabling voice and data through the same CAT5e? 1

[TerranceAddison]

The phone jacks in my house are wired with its individual line of cat5e and the jacks are rj-45. The cat5e lines are coming from a smart panel in my basement where they are connected to my main phone line {from outside} via a punch panel - it looks like a typical green circuit board. Also, my security system is connected to the punch panel and i assume it is occupying a second phone line. My objective is to buy a cable modem and a 8 port router and enable data AND voice to each jack in my house - through the same line of cat5e of course. My problem is that i don't know what to do aon the smart panel side. I know that i'll have to repunch everything, but i don't know where to begin. At the jacks, I assume I must make a second rj45 such that i can plug in my phone while the ethernet is plugged in. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Your help, suggestions, and feedback will be GREATLY appreciated!

 

[1864]

It sounds like you have some kind of structured wireing connecting block probably 110 type. You could remove the BL or BRN pair and splice your line to it, But it could turn into a big fat mess. (You would have to strip insulation back far enough to splice it) Someone may know of an adapter you could use. On the jack end an RJ11 jack would be sufficient.

 

[franklin97355]

Are you saying the house was wired with a structured cable system and they only put one jack per room?

 

[skip555]

been at least month since we have seen this question

can you do it ? well sort off , its not good practice but it can be done .

I wouldnt .

heres one thread that discusses it

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=932879

do a search at there are a lot more

 

[nevtxjustin]

I've done it before, but ONLY as a last resort. Even used the spare w/bl and w/br for a network connection as a temporary "I need it NOW" job.

I had a bad experience 20 years ago. A compnay wnated me to use the same 4-pair cable for the network connection and Northern Telecom PBX phone drop. BIG mistake, took a while to figure it out, but when a call was on hold and a user hit certain keys on keyboard - the call would disconnect.

Keep in mind, if you run a POTS line along side data pairs, you are going to have 90 voldtAC ringing current right next to the data pairs.

 

[robertjo24]

I would agree that it would be best to have sepparate cables for phone and network, but if you have to, here is an easy way to do what you are looking to do. Install a cable splitter on each end, put the phone in one side, anbd the network in the other.
This will keep you from rewiring the jack.

http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?T1=202+5275&dept=&search=&child=

 

[askthetech]

Depending on how you actually wish to get voice and data delivered to each outlet, you plug a splitter into the CAT5e in every room as the center pairs are lines 1 and 2. So you must have a line 1-2 splitter. This will mean that you use 1 pair for the voice and the other pair for the DSL. You must then crimp those specific pairs with an RJ14 and punch down the pair for voice and the pair for DSL, then plug it into the CAT5e according to which pair you are using for the voice and data. DSL is on 1 pair of wires, and the voice is on the other pair of wires. Be careful, as you can only do this with the 2 center pairs of the 4 pair inserts in every room. Does this make sense to you?

 

[oldtimerbob]

I too am very suprised that you only have one cable to each location (being as it is cat5e) and it is being used for voice. Have you checked the outlets to see if there are more?

All the following assumes the cable company is going to do their part up to the location of where your 'smart panel' is located. (most cable broadband companies use RG-6 cable).

NOTE: you will have to have power there for the modem/and router.

Your cable modem will have to go at that location From there a link cable will go to the router.
As the computers use the orange and green pairs you can plug in a cat5e patch cord at the router for each location,cut the other end and put the orange and green pairs where the connection for those go on the cables running to the stations.
NOTE: this assumes you have a good cat5e patch cord, if not you should know pins 1/2 are orange 3/6 are green if they are 568B cords. To tell,hold the patch cord up with the flat side facing you and look down,starting on the left is pin 1.
Leave the present voice connections alone as they are working fine.
Go to the stations and take orange and green pairs off the jack and terminate them on a new jack ( all 568-B as you stated) where the color coding on the new 'data jacks' indicate for a 'B'connection.
You may have to get new two postiton faceplates that will allow two jacks, I would suggest Leviton jacks as they are about the smallest.
IF the voice jacks need to replaced, just get enough Data jacks to allow for each location but terminate them 'A', as 'A' lines up with the USOC config ( for the first two pins(or lines)needed by phones.

Good luck.