Domain's Status in Google 3

[feherke]

Hi

Sorry for the obscurity of my question, I am not allowed to post proper names. The customer is not personally my, but our company's.

There is a customer who has 1 site and 3 domain names pointing to the same content. When searching in Google, only matches from 2 of them are listed. When you issue a search for "site:[green]unlisted_domain[/green]", there are 2 results ( and other 2 listed as duplicates ). 1 Flash animation and 1 PDF document ( and other 2 Flashes as duplicates ).

The question is, what could be the status of the domain in the Google ? Seems to be not banned, but is neither listed. I would say, it is ignored. Is there a way to find out that status ? I would say no, there is no way.

Thank you for your answers.

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I suggested to choose 1 master domain and serve the content only for that 1, the other 2 domains to only redirect to the master. And I predicted that another domain from the remaining 2 will disappear soon.

( As information, there is Google sitemap for that unlisted domain. It is plain text enumerating all HTML pages : 50 URLs, 8 duplicated ( totally 23 times, maximum 8 times ). The main page contains 5 Flash animations, the others 2, 1 of them is the menu. But there is a Site Map page. The main page has 30 HTML markup errors, none fatal. The [tt]meta keywords[/tt] looks abit like flooding : 104 words, 16 duplicated ( totally 41, maximum 5 times ). spacer.gif ( 1*1 pixel transparent ) used as link text, for 3 different links, although with different [tt]alt[/tt] texts and sizes. ) But I think this would not harm enough for a ban. )

Feherke.

http://rootshell.be/~feherke/

 

[1DMF]

what does google webmaster tools say for the domain?

any errors

"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you.

 

[feherke]

Hi

I have no access to those, I just assume there is nothing mentioned. But good idea, I will beset her with that question.

Feherke.

http://rootshell.be/~feherke/

 

[feherke]

Hi

Well, she says the sitemap.txt was last read on 21 May and there is no error mentioned.

Feherke.

http://rootshell.be/~feherke/

 

[1DMF]

So you have added the domain in the pull down for your sites.

it says it read sitemap.txt ? do you mean .xml?

what do you get under the site stats for link: , site: , cache: etc.


"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you.

 

[feherke]

Hi

As I started this thread, sorry for the obscurity.

I did not added the site anywhere, as it is all the web designer's work, who use the big boss' Google account...

And yes, it is sitemap.txt, as I wrote is plain text, not XML.

I just made my Google webmaster account with a page of my, just to have a reference to know what to ask her. But until Google crawls my site again, I will just repeat your questions. Thank you for them.

Feherke.

http://rootshell.be/~feherke/

 

[1DMF]

obviously it's hard for for use to do any looking without knowing the domain name!

I have 2 domains pointing to the same site and have them added to my webmaster account, i had to create 2 sitemap.xml with the two different domain names.

I've checked and only 6 pages for one domain is listed, yet all 25 are shwoing for the other domain.

So maybe google gets wise to this, i'm not sure having multiple domains pointing to the same website actually does any good anyhow.

It's not helped us from what i cant tell!

"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you."

"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!

 

[ChrisHirst]

It sounds like the SEs have figured out they are mirrors and either:
merged the hostnames under what they have determined is the important one
or
they have simply filtered out the other hostname and the pages are effectively ignored.

Only having one hostname listed for mirrored/parked hostnames is the way it should be.

You should be 301 redirecting the other names to what YOU (or the client) wants to be the primary name.

Otherwise you end up letting the SEs decide which they want to show for any given query.


Chris.

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
Woo Hoo! the cobblers kids get new shoes.
People Counting Systems

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

 

[feherke]

Hi

Thank you, Chris.

Then I have to convince the boss to convince the manager to convince the customer...

Feherke.

http://rootshell.be/~feherke/

 

[1DMF]

well as long as YOU'RE convinced that's all that matters, i'm convinced!

"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you."

"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!

 

[1DMF]

I decided to drop the mirror domain, it didn't seem to do me any good, only 6 pages were indexed yet I had set the site up exactly the same way, sitemap and all.

And if Chris is right, it could do more harm than good and that is not what we want now is it!

"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you."

"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!

 

[feherke]

Hi

Yep, it can definitely harm. The 3 domains I talked about above are : the company name, a variation of the company name and a common expression. Now guess which one happens to be the ignored one ? Exactly. The company name.

Feherke.

http://rootshell.be/~feherke/

 

[1DMF]

lol - not what they wanted for sure!

"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you."

"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!

 

[1DMF]

Just to confirm this issue and how much it can harm your listing!

If i do site:domain in google , it shows all pages as being indexed for my main domain.

however , I was doing a keyword search to see where we were in google generic listing, but got to page 35 and couldn't see a sausage!

So I thought OK, I'll do an exact match of a phrase i know is in the title tag, and guess what I found.

Google is showing the page for the other domain, the one I delete, removed , no longer exists!!!!

So Google is indexing a non-existent page to a non-existant site, yet claims to have all pages from the real domain indexed, yet refuses to serve up the indexed page from the real domain.

I'd even submitted a site removal request to Google but still there is this problem, so if you have multiple domains pointing to the same box, Google will decide by some strange logic what pages it will index or more importantly what pages it will return as the SERP.

So If you had a website with 20 pages linked to 5 domains, you could end up with Google showing 4 pages for each domain, rather than the 100 pages you were hoping for!

Don't Do It!

"In complete darkness we are all the same, only our knowledge and wisdom separates us, don't let your eyes deceive you."

"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!