do you still worry about netscape 4.x? 1

[pugs421]

I see so much use of css for borders these days, and from what I understand they dont display properly or at all in netscape 4.x. Is there such a small percentage of people that use older versions of netscape that many designers use css for borders and other non supported elements. I know most would say 'it depends on your target audience', but I'm talking about your average online brochure where a business wants to be seen/found.

I never used css for borders, but the way I'm starting to look at it is if a person is still on a computer using 4.x, they probably arent going to spend money on your product or service.

 

[dwarfthrower]

>> if a person is still on a computer using 4.x

Yep, spot on. If a person is too lazy / stupid to get a recent release of a standards compliant browser (they are free after all) then they deserve all the crappy rendering, lack of compatibility, security exploits and sluggish performance they get.

Design for standards not for browsers. If you design a site for 4.x browser users, then you are simply feeding whatever psychological defect is causing them to fail to upgrade.

 

[jwenting]

Design for standards not for browsers. If you design a site for 4.x browser users, then you are simply feeding whatever psychological defect is causing them to fail to upgrade.

Unless of course you're paid to do it for a corporate LAN where someone's idea of security consciousness is to always use software that's several versions out of date (yes, I've seen it with my own eyes. One company I worked they refused to use ANY software that was not superceded by at least one major and one minor release because they considered anything newer to be insecure and unstable by definition).
But then you should probably try to get out of that environment anyway as it is really bad for your personal and professional development.

 

[ChrisHunt]

My view is that you should design your site to be legible to people using older browsers, but not to waste any effort making it pretty. That's what I've done at my current employer's site:

http://www.infolinx.org

. All the styling comes from CSS, view it in NN4 and it's just black & white - but it still WORKS.

-- Chris Hunt

http://www.extracon.com

http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk

http://www.napitalia.org.uk

http://www.leicesteryha.org.uk

 

[cian]

"If a person is too lazy / stupid"

A little unfair perhaps to call people that, some people just don't know that there are other options out there. Some people have lives and don't have their heads buried in PC's like us!

Having said that, I have never supported NS4, once your site can be read in the browser then don't worry about how it looks.




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http://www.ssi-developer.net/elgoog/

 

[zoobie]

Yes...I worry that it may actually come back.
More of a nightmare I suppose...

 

[SashiRaveendran]

The more developers continue to write websites that support that peice o'crap the longer people will hold on to it.

N4, be gone with u!