CSS or shared borders? 1

[Tracy3e]

Hello, I've inherited a website that is now my job to update. When I open the pages, they are missing the top border and the left hand border (or navigation bar).

The tags on the file indicate a CSS is in use, and the dcpac.css file is there in the same directory.
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="dcpac.css">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">

Any ideas on the problem or where to look further? I know 0 about CSS.

I suppose I could change the top and left sides to be shared borders - any reason why I shoudn't?

 

[tinaalice]

Can you give us the domain? It's always much easier to check rather than guess.

<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">

This line indicates borders are turned off.

Which is probably the problem. Without seeing the sheet we don't know if the css is making the menu, even it if it is the fact that it might have been using shared borders and they are turned off means it's not going to show.

The css though is probably for the formatting, to what extent depends on how much the last webmaster knew.

We really need to see the site.

How did you obtain the site? (ie get it onto your hd?) .... is it on your hard drive? Does it have FPSE - FrontPage Server Extensions enabled on the server?

Tina

http://accessfp.net/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frontpage/

http://addonfp.com/

http://frontpage-tips.com

 

[Tracy3e]

Well, after I posted my question I was playing around with the site and decided to try shared borders.

I checked the Microsoft Border MetaTag and it now says this for all pages - most likely because of the shared borders I started.

<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tl, default">

to give you the website link wouldn't help I don't think because it doesn't have the problem, only the copy I'm trying to update (which was supplied to me on diskette). If you still need the website I'd rather post it to you personally if possible for privacy concerns. Thanks.

 

[tinaalice]

Ah well that's your problem "which was supplied to me on diskette" .... the site needs to be published to the cd and published from the cd or you lose your navigation pane layout. I don't know where it's from but if the other person still has the orginal ask them to either give you access to the host so you can publish the site live from there or open a free account with tripod ask them to publish there so you can open it live and publish it to your hd, then wipe the site off the server.. or ask them to publish the site to the cd then you when u get it publish the site from the cd to your hd... you will need to change the read write permissions once it's back on your hd .. there is a third solution which the other person could give you...

FrontPage stores your navigation data in the _vti_pvt folder
to back up your navigation data, make a copy of the
_vti_pvt/structure.cnf file (the peson with the site could do that for you)

If at anytime you need to restore your navigation data or it gets lost you can copy your back up structure.cnf file and recalculate hyperlinks to restore the data, so you can just overwrite the one on your hd for this site with the copy the other person gives you the other solutions seem easier as things can go wrong with this and it's usually a last resort.


This is why includes are soooo much better to use rather than shared borders and nav bots. If the site is on the interent ... you can just email the domain name... no need for the whole site.. but the above should solve your problem. Personally I'd redesign at this point and start using includes for menus.

Tina

http://accessfp.net/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frontpage/

http://addonfp.com/

http://frontpage-tips.com

 

[Tracy3e]

ahh, interesting. The problem is I have to go through a 3rd party to get the site posted or to get a download (he's the school principal with the password but not a technical guy).

I'll try to start over with these includes, assuming the system can handle them.

Thanks for all of your valuable help, Tina, it is much appreciated!

 

[Tracy3e]

sorry to resurrect an old post, but I'm just getting back to this now that I've got a day off.

When I open the CD that she says she used the Publish option to get it to CD it says:

"Frontpage needs to add some information to your folder in order to help manage your hyperlinks and other site content"

Is that indicative of why I'm having so much trouble?

I answer yes to this but site still doesn't show left nav bar. I can't even find the left nav bar file to include it as an include.

sigh...

It looks ok on the actual website

http://davidcameron.sd62.bc.ca/

I think I'm going to start all over and figure out how to use includes like you've said. My problem is I know how to edit established webpages but inheriting a website is proving to be an entirely new beast!

 

[Tracy3e]

You were right, when I take the word "none" out of the line below the borders magically appear.


<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">

The stupid thing is the "none" keeps coming back even though I save the changes. It's not coming from the style sheet because it's only got a few font size and colour changes.

Why is something so simple being such a pain.