CSS Opera 7.11

[Zhris]

Can anybody tell me the usage of Opera 7.11 and if I should worry about making my site look perfect. I am having problems using a 3 column CSS layout. The middle of the 3 columns looks like this

#middle{
	padding-top: 2px;
	padding-bottom: 8px;
	width: 594px;
	height: 100%;
	background-color: #a7a7a7;
	border: 4px solid #6a1077;
	overflow: auto;
}

When I added margin-left and margin-right it destroyed the layout in other browsers.

Shall I write this browser off and not worry?

Chris

 

[BabyJeffy]

I would try padding-left/right, but if that didn't work I would write it off.

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Jeff

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[Zhris]

Thanks for your reply Jeff,

When I tried left and right *margin (I think you meant margin) I had problems in SeaMonkey 1.1, 2.0 and Shiretoko 3.1, where the margin started from the left/right divs (rather than the edge of the outer)(therefore doubling the margin expected) (screenshot shown here

http://browsershots.org/screenshots/1c4a6b44af652c68a2100f32bf068bfb/).

Sorry to ask again, but is Opera 7.11 a widely used browser?

Thanks,

Chris

 

[BabyJeffy]

...is Opera 7.11 a widely used browser?

It doesn't even feature in the logs I see. I would say that it is not widely used. No.

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[Zhris]

Thank you very much!

 

[Vragabond]

Whenever you're unsure about the usage of a browser, you could check some online statistics (like the ones on W3 Schools) or statistics of one of your own sites. Furthermore, I suggest reading Wikipedia articles on specific browser history. You would've learned that about 2% of the W3Schools users surf with Opera and that version 7 was developed in 2003, while the current version is 9.52. That would sufficiently tell you that Opera 7.11 is an outdated browser that hardly anybody uses.

Usually, users will update their browser (Opera also notifies you of new versions) shortly after the new version is available. In my opinion, users will very seldom stay more than 1 version behind. A notable exception would be Internet Explorer, because it is built in an operating system (hence some people don't bother updating it) and because its market share is still so dominant.

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[Zhris]

Vragabond,

Thank you for your insight.

I asked a similar question regarding IE4 a couple of weeks ago and you provided me with some useful information.

I decided to download Opera 7.11 and test some websites, to find that most that use a CSS based layout (rather than tables) were displayed poorly.

I suppose I am just being very cautious to ensure that every user that visits my site is able to use it effectively, and so that I can re-use my stylesheet for future developments (with the possibility that a large proportion of visitors use outdated browsers).

Whilst hunting for statistics I can only seem to find the top 10 browsers and I was hoping for a huge list of every browser/version and the % monthly usage.

However, I do keep in mind that time moves on, and eventually these sorts of issues will no longer arise as browsers/versions are disowned.

Thanks again, and any other insight/information would be greatly appreciated.

Chris