Corel Photo Paint - Patch Clon ?

[tutmozis]

Hello,

Don't start with this..."use Photoshop"

My question is for those who still use PhotoPaint or know the answer for Retouch.
I like at Photoshop the Patch trick, when you use as cloning technique, because you simply mask the area where you want to bring texture from other part, and he merge it nicely.
Unfortunately no Patch like this at PhotoPaint, is there any alternative for this ?
I still use simple Cloning and Copy/Paste Mask from similar texture and merging-feather-transparency it to look good. So I can do this nicely, but that Photoshop trick is much faster.

 

[attrofy]

I don't understand the question, as I may not be understanding the Photoshop "Patch Trick" in the same manner in which you mean it. It sounds as if you are looking to "clone" a predefined section of an image or texture, and paste it in another location. If the standard clone dose not get the results you are looking for, it sounds like the best way might be to make an "Object" of the section you want to move to another location.

Select the Mask tool, and mask the area you want to copy, then Object > Create > Object: Copy Selection
Then feather, blend and change transparencies.

But this sounds like what you indicated you are already doing.

There are a variety of brush options for tools that provide enough preset options with "wet" and "dry" brushes to give good results. For dealing with Photographs, I find a combination of using the "clone" and "Blend tool" do a great job and provide great results. This is one of those areas that you need to take your time, and don't be afraid to make new objects to create your "retouches" on, and save them often. Then you can make them visible or invisible, and adjust the transparency as you see fit.

Lastly, this is one area that Photoshop gets the nod with their "Healing Brush" tool. With the X3 release there is a new Touch Up tool, which does an acceptable job, but often takes on properties of the "smudge" and "smear" tools. However, it is dynamic in that it matches the underlying colors and tones on the fly - much like the Healing Brush. So it can do "quick and dirty" retouches pretty effectively. However, I do give Adobe the advantage in this area. Maybe in a future release or two, Corel will catch up. With patience, a little bit more manual labor and hands on "brushwork" you can achieve better results with the Clone and Blend tools then you can with the Healing Brush, or the Touch Up tools. But it depends on how much detail you need in your project, and how "hands-on" you want to be.

Hopefully this answers your question. Post back if you have more questions.

 

[tutmozis]

Hello and thx attrofy,

You gave some good idea, but here what I want exactly:

http://photoshoptips.net/2005/09/09/patch-tool/

This will explain better

 

[attrofy]

Sadly, nothing like that in Photo Paint. As stated before, this area needs some improvement by Corel. It is possible one of their other applications has a similar tool, but as I use only Photo Paint, I am not sure where to tell you to begin looking.

 

[tutmozis]

Thx for your help.

I still use PhotoPaint for some of my Photo Restoration/Retouch jobs, but unfortunately, I will need to use Photoshop too in some cases.

 

[attrofy]

Sadly, that is the way many people that use Corel are going. I had Adobe installed for a while, but the heavy hitting computer we used it on had to be relocated elsewhere - now I am just back to Corel. Occasionally I miss Adobe - especially with the color correction.

IMO Corel was making some good advances and taking a lot of ground from Adobe (for those that knew Corel was superior) but Adobe started making some real strides around version 5.5, and at the same time Corel started making some real dogs - around version 6-9. Corel cleaned up its act for version 9 & 10, but then has sort of sat on its laurals, and watched Adobe make up any ground they had lost.

It looks like the newest Corel trend is to buy up existing platforms and incorporate them into the Corel name. This won't get them very far - they need to re-evaluate what tmade them great to begin with, and continue to work on advancing those areas. Sadly, Photo Paint has always sort of been treated as Draw's "stupid little brother" and never really gotten much attention. Many of the capabilities that Photo Paint had for years, that Photoshop was lacking, was thought to be revolutionary when Adobe finally incorporated them in 6.5 and 7. Now with the CS2 suite, Adobe is bluring the lines between their products, and giving more vector abilities to Photoshop, and giving more raster abilitiy to Illustrator. This too is seen as revolutionary (with the Adobe Bridge) while Corel has had a similar built in functionality for many versions.

So, in short, you have to use both Corel and Adobe depending on what the situation dictates. Either one can accomplish the same tasks - just each platform has its particular strengths and weaknesses. Corel's weaknesses have been in the "auto-tools" department. They tend to be more "manual" in nature. Which is good for those that want the utmost authority and control over every last pixel - but sometimes - a quick and dirty repair is all that is needed, and an auto-tool will suffice....

/end_rant