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Configure Ca ArcServe r11.5 for HDDs 1

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gizmoboy

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Hey,

at this time we use tapes. in a few week we want to delet the tapes and will use hdds for the backup.

but i dont know how to configure ca for hdds. rotation is gfs.

everyone got a good manual to configure ca for hdds?


greetz

gizmoboy
 
you have to setup a FSD File System Device. One FSD for each tape you want to replace.
 
I'll add a cautionary note here. We do a rotation that we manage ourselves. Mostly because the differential and full backups are a little different. We've got 5 2-bay USB chassis. On 1 drive we have 4 folders for Mon - Thu. The other drive has one folder for the full on Friday. Each Monday we swap the entire chassis.

To do this we need to stop the tape engine, stop the USB device, swap the USB chassis, and restart the tape engine. The tape engine song and dance is needed to close the open pointers to the FSD.

When we connect the new USB chassis we need to go back into the device groups and reassign all the folders to the proper group. It would be nice if the program (R12) would remember that we told it that all the folders on E: are in PGRP0, the folder on F: is in PGRP1 and so on. Instead, each folder is in it's own PGRP. I've tried setting my job destination as any PGRP that has a media from the proper pool to avoid this step but it doesn't seem to work. Someday I'll address this issue with CA.

Other than needing a few minutes of care each Monday morning (and the last Friday of the month for a monthly dump) the FSDs work fine.

The USB chassis are hot swappable. I haven't tried this but suspect it would be a problem since Arcserve keeps file handles open and that's not a good time to swap a drive.

- Joel
 
We too are looking at running backups via Arcserve r11.5 to HDD.

We have two NAS drives and Arcserve should backup data from one to the other.

The 2nd drive is configured a an FSD and I can successfully run a full backup to that device.

Where I'm having the problem is setting up the job to allow incrementals during the week, and a full backup on a Friday.

How can I configure the job to perform incrementals? Do I need more than one FSD and if so, can I create more than one FSD on the 2nd NAS?

Many thanks,

Graham
 
Here's what we do here. We've got 11 FSDs. 4 of these are used for an incremental on Monday - Thursday. 5 of these are used for a full backup of the accounting system that is done each weekday. There is one for a full backup on Friday and one for a full Monthly backup on the last Sunday of the Month. We don't use a rotation to manage this. We do have media pools setup for the FSDs.

Each FSD is a folder on a USB attached enclosure. Each Monday we swap the enclosures for the E and F drives. There's a little bit of annoying work to do this.

They are setup as follows:
E:\INCR_A .. E:\INCR_D (4)
E:\ACCT_A .. E:\ACCT_E (5)
F:\FULL (1)
G:\MONTHLY (1)

Each type of backup is a separate job.

This may not be the optimal way but it works. If the list of files to backup changes you need to modify more than 1 job.

Hope this helps.

- Joel
 
Joel - exactly the type of info I needed for the FSDs. I'll get on and create the seperate folders for the Incrementals and give it a bash.

Thanks very much for your posts.

Graham
 
OK - so we have this running now, using the built-in Arcserve rotation for 4 daily incrementals and a full backup on Friday.

All appears ok - except that I cannot get it to perform incremental backups - each daily backup runs as a 'full' backup.

Are Linkstations capable of running incrementals, as we don't have enough space to run full jobs every day.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Graham
 
I can't say I've ever heard of a linkstation. We have the same issue (that's pronounced problem) here with our linux servers. The way we got around this was to setup a filter for each server. We only include files modified in the past 3 days. The arcserve concept of days is not what I expected. This means that 3 days is not 72 hours but is 3 calendar days. Tonights' backup will include anything modified starting Friday at 00:00:00 and ending tonight 23:59:59. You can set your threshold to whatever size you like. Ours works like this

Day of Backup Files Covered
Mon Fri - Mon
Tue Sat - Tue
Wed Sun - Wed
Thu Mon - Thu

Therefore, anything modified on Friday ends up on the full weekly dump and the first differential/incremental of the next week. It's not ideal but it works.

- Joel
 
Buffalo Linkstation - NAS drive. They aren't formatted by NTFS though - they have their own format (XFS). Its possible that the archive bit is affected by this non-standard format. I have read elsewhere of issues with Arcserve incrementals backups on Samba, so its probably all linked.

I'll have a look at your suggestion about filters and give it a try - its a bit poor though that we have to resort to these methods - Arcserve should be able to do something as basic as incremental backups!

Thanks,
Graham
 
Linux doesn't have archive bits either and for years, make that decades, the way around this was external control files. If the modify date is newer than the last backup date then add this file to the backup. It's not a hard concept. Linux has multiple backup levels so there's an extra step or 2 in deciding what to include.

I agree that the agent could do a better job of managing it.
The filters let you set thresholds but the default should support differential/incremental jobs.

- Joel
 
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