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Computer slow - 2 min startup, 1 min shutdown

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dbMark

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Apr 10, 2003
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Famy - don't you love them? My niece has kids and lots of stuff installed on 1.3 GHz Celeron computer. I tried F-Prot AV, defragmenting files and registries, ScanDisk. Here's the log, not in Safe Mode. Any ideas why startup still takes 2 minutes and shutdown 1 minute?

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 9:10:36 PM, on 12/2/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.5730.0011)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead Photo Explorer 8.0 SE Basic\Monitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LXSUPMON.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\ACDSYS~1\DEVDET~1\DEVDET~1.EXE
C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdoctor.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\Money Express.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\BigFix\BigFix.exe
C:\Program Files\Kodak\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
C:\Program Files\Kodak\KODAK Software Updater\7288971\Program\Kodak Software Updater.exe
C:\Program Files\WinZip\WZQKPICK.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PackethSvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\sdhelp.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\WINZIP\winzip32.exe
C:\Program Files\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Window Title = Windows Internet Explorer provided by Yahoo!
R3 - URLSearchHook: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Toolbar Helper - {02478D38-C3F9-4EFB-9B51-7695ECA05670} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: PCTools Site Guard - {5C8B2A36-3DB1-42A4-A3CB-D426709BBFEB} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdsg.dll
O2 - BHO: CNisExtBho Class - {9ECB9560-04F9-4bbc-943D-298DDF1699E1} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
O2 - BHO: PCTools Browser Monitor - {B56A7D7D-6927-48C8-A975-17DF180C71AC} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdpb.dll
O2 - BHO: CNavExtBho Class - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {FDD3B846-8D59-4ffb-8758-209B6AD74ACC} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyviewer.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Web assistant - {0B53EAC3-8D69-4b9e-9B19-A37C9A5676A7} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [UserFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -u
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [URLLSTCK.exe] C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\UrlLstCk.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Ulead AutoDetector] C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead Photo Explorer 8.0 SE Basic\Monitor.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RealTray] C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe SYSTEMBOOTHIDEPLAYER
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LXSUPMON] C:\WINDOWS\system32\LXSUPMON.EXE RUN
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Camera Detector] C:\PROGRA~1\ACDSYS~1\DEVDET~1\DEVDET~1.EXE -autorun
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AttuneSysTray] C:\PROGRA~1\Aveo\Attune\Bin\Attune_st.exe /boot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AttuneClientEngine] C:\PROGRA~1\Aveo\Attune\bin\attune_ce.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Spyware Doctor] "C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdoctor.exe" /Q
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec\LIVEUP~1\SNDMon.EXE
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MoneyAgent] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\Money Express.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - Global Startup: BigFix.lnk = C:\Program Files\BigFix\BigFix.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Kodak EasyShare software.lnk = C:\Program Files\Kodak\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Kodak software updater.lnk = C:\Program Files\Kodak\KODAK Software Updater\7288971\Program\Kodak Software Updater.exe
O4 - Global Startup: WinZip Quick Pick.lnk = C:\Program Files\WinZip\WZQKPICK.EXE
O9 - Extra button: Spyware Doctor - {2D663D1A-8670-49D9-A1A5-4C56B4E14E84} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdpb.dll
O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\Shdocvw.dll
O9 - Extra button: MoneySide - {E023F504-0C5A-4750-A1E7-A9046DEA8A21} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyviewer.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - %windir%\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - %windir%\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O11 - Options group: [INTERNATIONAL] International*
O12 - Plugin for .xml: C:\Program Files\Netscape\Netscape Browser\PLUGINS\npTrident.dll
O14 - IERESET.INF: START_PAGE_URL=http://www.<local>bell.com/
O16 - DPF: {406B5949-7190-4245-91A9-30A17DE16AD0} (Snapfish Activia) - O20 - Winlogon Notify: WgaLogon - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WgaLogon.dll
O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Proxy (ccProxy) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
O23 - Service: LexBce Server (LexBceS) - Lexmark International, Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Virtual NIC Service (PackethSvc) - America Online, Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\PackethSvc.exe
O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ.exe
O23 - Service: PC Tools Spyware Doctor (SDhelper) - PC Tools Research Pty Ltd - C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\sdhelp.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
 
Visit & post log there for automated advice.

You appear to have nothing nasty as such. However.

Symantic is a resource hog. You might want to consider alternatives.

Spyware doctor im my experience slows startup quite a bit.

You have a lot of programs scheduled at startup that are not really necessary - such as kodak updater, winzippick, money express. The way I look at it - I am capable of deciding if and when I want updates and starting software when I need it - so I always kill stuff like that.

At the end of the day it's up to you - your choices are a faster startup & shut down or a PC that runs lots of services you may or may not need.
 
Besides what stduc mentioned, you can do all of these:
If you have anything in the tasktray next to the clock that is not necessary: security apps may be necessary there, I would disable those items from the msconfig-startup options, and/or from the "Startup" folder under your Start Menu - Programs/All Programs.

Make sure the visual settings are as low/slim as possible. Given that the system is a little slow with the Celeron 1.3, this will help. The lower the resources available, the more this will help. You can change this in a few ways:
1. Disable any screensavers
2. Change the resolution and color scheme to lower - if not already low.
3. Right-Click on "My Computer", choose "Properties", "Advanced" tab, Performance - either custom select/deselect items, or just choose "for best performance".
4. You can also check the virtual memory in the same as last location. Generally, it's best to have at least twice what the system memory (RAM) installed. So, if the computer has 256 megabytes of RAM, I'd set it to at least 512 min, and 1024 max.
5. Make sure that the desktop isn't COVERED in files and shortcuts, especially files. Anything on the desktop can slow down performance some. Given that this system has a 1.3 ghz Celeron, I'd especially suggest that getting as much off the desktop as possible.
6. Alternative method for defragging a hard drive: I read this in a tech magazine, and it seems to make a little difference. Ever so often, I will do what they called a "power defragment". That is, I disable the virual memory, restart the computer as requested by Windows, THEN do a defrag. Once complete, re-enable the virtual memory. This way, the Windows can access the hard drive space normally allocated to virtual memory, and defrag that as well as the rest of the hard drive.
7. On the desktop, if it has no dedicated graphics card, I would also suggest taking any background pictures off. Especially, if they are using a fairly detailed picture for the background, this can be a resource hog (comparatively especially for older/slower machines).
8. If they have anything less than 512 megabytes of RAM, I'd suggest upgrading that to at least 512 or whatever the maximum is for their motherboard or computer. Generally, it's pretty cheap to get 256 or 512 Megabytes of RAM nowadays, especially if you find it somewhere like eBay - used.
9. It wouldn't be a bad idea to suggest investing in a dedicated graphics card as apposed to onboard graphics, if they do not already have one. A 64 megabyte (even used) video card would make loads of difference, especially for this particular kind of setup. It may not particularly help the startup speed, but it would help in running most applications, at least a little, in a Windows XP environment, particularly anything with much visuals. Again, you may can find a cheap used one on eBay or your local paper.

As far as replacing Norton, you could check out some of the free antivirus apps. I personally like Grisoft AVG Antivirus best. Some like Avast antivirus best, and there are a couple others. AVG has a free version, and a paid version. I've been using the free version for at least 2 years now, if I remember correctly, and have installed it on many other computers. Frankly, after going from Norton to AVG (I always used Norton, prior), Symantec would have to really do something different to get me to go back. AVG doesn't slow down your computer to a crawl like Norton and McAfee tend to.

To get AVG, you can go here: free.grisoft.com
You can also get their free antispyware app, which was Ewido, prior. It is 100% free for a trial period, and then you can still update and scan for free, but the "resident shield" is no longer free after the trial period. AVG Antivirus Free is free, period.

HTH

 
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