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The act of compiling is referred to as "compiling". The end result would be a "compilation".
Thomas D. Greer
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Hi, Compiling IS the act of compiling..
The compiler ( not refering to the person doing the compiling, but the software ) compiles and when it is done compiling, the code is compiled..
The person doing the compiling ( that is,executing the compiler command) is also engaged in the act of compiling, so that person is also compiling..
What a wonderful language..
( Only english, I think, could have such an odd thing as
a word spelled 'ghoti' able to be pronounced as 'fish' )
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The compiler ( not refering to the person doing the compiling, but the software ) compiles and when it is done compiling, the code is compiled..
The person doing the compiling ( that is,executing the compiler command) is also engaged in the act of compiling, so that person is also compiling..
What a wonderful language..
( Only english, I think, could have such an odd thing as
a word spelled 'ghoti' able to be pronounced as 'fish' )
if not clear how, post a request for an explanation
To Paraphrase:"The Help you get is proportional to the Help you give.."
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>> The person doing the compiling ( that is,executing the compiler command) is also engaged in the act of compiling, so that person is also compiling..
Would the person doing the compiling be referred to as the compiler.
The person driving a car is the driver, therefore the person compiling software is the compiler.
A correct statement could be, "Our compiler compilies the application using a compiler to produce a compilation."
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Would the person doing the compiling be referred to as the compiler.
The person driving a car is the driver, therefore the person compiling software is the compiler.
A correct statement could be, "Our compiler compilies the application using a compiler to produce a compilation."
-George
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CajunCenturion
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==> ( Only english, I think, could have such an odd thing as a word spelled 'ghoti' able to be pronounced as 'fish' )
That's been around for a while, and as amusing as it might seem on the surface, it simly isn't true. 'Gh' only has an 'f' sound when it follows a vowell, so it cannot sound like an 'f' at the beginning of a word. Similar, 'ti' only has a 'sh' sound when a vowell follows it, so 'ti' can never sound like 'sh' at the end of a word. The only part that has any truth to it is the 'o' sounding like an 'i', which can also be found in the word, 'women'.
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That's been around for a while, and as amusing as it might seem on the surface, it simly isn't true. 'Gh' only has an 'f' sound when it follows a vowell, so it cannot sound like an 'f' at the beginning of a word. Similar, 'ti' only has a 'sh' sound when a vowell follows it, so 'ti' can never sound like 'sh' at the end of a word. The only part that has any truth to it is the 'o' sounding like an 'i', which can also be found in the word, 'women'.
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grande:
"ghoti" = "fish"
gh = f as in rouGH
o = i as in wOmen
ti = sh as in naTIon
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"ghoti" = "fish"
gh = f as in rouGH
o = i as in wOmen
ti = sh as in naTIon
See HERE for more information.
Susan
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
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I'd disagree with that. When it is done compiling, the code is "compiled code" or it "has been compiled". I don't think it is correct to say "it is compiled."
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Because "compiled" isn't a noun, it's adjective. It is compiled code.
Thomas D. Greer
Thomas D. Greer
Err...... ?!
To compile : verb
To be compiled : same verb, but passive form.
It is compiled : present tense of "to be compiled"
It has been compiled : finite past tense of "to be compiled"
I fail to see why 'compiled' cannot both be a verb and an adjective.
To go back to the OP's post, The act of compiling is referred to as ... Compiling ?
So that's saying that you would, for instance, say "the compiling of this code" ?
I would use "compilation".
"The compilation takes a long time"
Although it's certainly just as correct to say "Compiling takes a long time", but in that case, I agree with you that it's not a noun.. But it's a verb.
Am I completely off-track?
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To compile : verb
To be compiled : same verb, but passive form.
It is compiled : present tense of "to be compiled"
It has been compiled : finite past tense of "to be compiled"
I fail to see why 'compiled' cannot both be a verb and an adjective.
To go back to the OP's post, The act of compiling is referred to as ... Compiling ?
So that's saying that you would, for instance, say "the compiling of this code" ?
I would use "compilation".
"The compilation takes a long time"
Although it's certainly just as correct to say "Compiling takes a long time", but in that case, I agree with you that it's not a noun.. But it's a verb.
Am I completely off-track?
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CajunCenturion
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The act of compiling could either be 'compiling', or 'compilation'. Although both are nouns, and either would be correct, I prefer to use 'compiling' for the process, and compilation for the result.
In the sentence, "Compiling takes a long time.", not only is 'compiling' a noun, it is the subject of the sentence. 'Takes' is the verb.
Verbs are neither passive nor active in form; voice is either passive or active.
==> It is compiled : present tense of "to be compiled"
No, the verb is 'is' and 'compiled' is a predicate adjective.
If the sentence were "It is to be compiled", then 'is' is still the verb, but the phrase 'to be compiled' is an adverb infinitive.
==> It has been compiled : finite past tense of "to be compiled"
Not quite. A finite verb is one that stands alone in the predicate. The sentence "It has been compiled" does not have a finite verb; it has a verb phrase ending the past participle of the verb 'to compile'. The tense of that sentence is past perfect.
==> I fail to see why 'compiled' cannot both be a verb and an adjective.
I compiled the code. ==> verb
The compiled code is in that directory. ==> adjective
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In the sentence, "Compiling takes a long time.", not only is 'compiling' a noun, it is the subject of the sentence. 'Takes' is the verb.
Verbs are neither passive nor active in form; voice is either passive or active.
==> It is compiled : present tense of "to be compiled"
No, the verb is 'is' and 'compiled' is a predicate adjective.
If the sentence were "It is to be compiled", then 'is' is still the verb, but the phrase 'to be compiled' is an adverb infinitive.
==> It has been compiled : finite past tense of "to be compiled"
Not quite. A finite verb is one that stands alone in the predicate. The sentence "It has been compiled" does not have a finite verb; it has a verb phrase ending the past participle of the verb 'to compile'. The tense of that sentence is past perfect.
==> I fail to see why 'compiled' cannot both be a verb and an adjective.
I compiled the code. ==> verb
The compiled code is in that directory. ==> adjective
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Ooh, I had no idea that english also used the word "voice" to define active or passive.
I've also not been this completely wrong since the age of 6 or so. Well done, sir! I will go relearn what I should have learned when I was learning english.
My only problem is this one..
"One compilation" is ok, but "one compiling" ?
Are you sure that "compiling" is not just a verb that has been, through neologism, made into a noun?
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I've also not been this completely wrong since the age of 6 or so. Well done, sir! I will go relearn what I should have learned when I was learning english.
My only problem is this one..
"One compilation" is ok, but "one compiling" ?
Are you sure that "compiling" is not just a verb that has been, through neologism, made into a noun?
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CajunCenturion
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I think you do very well for someone whose first language is not English.
==>Are you sure that "compiling" is not just a verb that has been, through neologism, made into a noun?
The process of inflecting a verb by adding '-ing' and using it as a noun is not anything new. When the '-ing' inflection is used as a noun, it's called a gerund.
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==>Are you sure that "compiling" is not just a verb that has been, through neologism, made into a noun?
The process of inflecting a verb by adding '-ing' and using it as a noun is not anything new. When the '-ing' inflection is used as a noun, it's called a gerund.
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CajunCenturion
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Actually, I missed the subtelty of your question on the intial reading.
There is nothing wrong with 'compiling' as a noun, but whether or not 'one' can be used as a preceding article is a different question. The answer lies in whether or not 'compiling' is a countable noun. Whether or not compilation is a countable noun will be largely dependant on context. In those situations where it is countable, 'one compilation' is perfectly reasonable.
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There is nothing wrong with 'compiling' as a noun, but whether or not 'one' can be used as a preceding article is a different question. The answer lies in whether or not 'compiling' is a countable noun. Whether or not compilation is a countable noun will be largely dependant on context. In those situations where it is countable, 'one compilation' is perfectly reasonable.
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I've been a programmer for close to 30 years, and I don't think I've ever called it "compiled code". The result of compiling has always been "an executable" or "program" to me. The compiler magically transforms the source code into an executable program (hopefully).
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Many of us who have been in software development for a number of years may remember when compiling and linking were two distinct operations. The compiler produced compiled code. You then took the compiled code and fed it, along with other compiled modules and libraries into a linker to produce the executable code.
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When compiling and linkage-editing were two separate steps, the compiled code was called an "object module", and object modules were stores in "object libraries". After linkage-editing the result was called a "load module" and load modules were stored in "load libraries".
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Yes, those terms were used as well.
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