Clips to attach coax on brick wall 3

[fs483]

Hello,

It's been pretty quiet here after all the arguing... Everyone on vacation?

What kind of clips do you use to securely attach a coax (RG6) to the exterior walls ? The ones that are usually sold at hardware stores are the white plastic clips with very short nails. Either the clips break in the cold winters (-30 celsius plus wind chills) or the nails don't hold because they are too short or the cement between the bricks chip away or because of the added weight of ice and snow on the wires pulls the clips out the wall. The cable company used to use these very large nails (about 1 inch long with a hook in a c shape) many years ago but lately, they seem to use these cheap clips that end up breaking. It's already bad enough seeing wires attached to the exterior walls and going all around the outside but having them dangle like christmas decorations is even worse. It doesn't show that much on small houses but I have a 4 apartments with cable lines going into each room from the exterior walls !

Thanks
akwong

 

[bkrike]

I have always had pretty good luck with Tap-Ins for either coax or phone, back in my residential days.

http://www.itwlinx.com/products/subcategory.asp?category=40&subcategory=3

 

[mikeydidit]

http://www.abbatron.com/products/part/get/hdw_css_swcc

These are the ones that I like to use for brick. It takes a little extra time to install, but you wont have to hang them again. I use a small plastic anchor with these and they work great.

Mike Jones
Louisiana State University Health Sciences center

 

[skip555]

I have never been able to get the twilinx onse's to work well . I use ones similar to the link mike gave us I usually use tapcons rather than plasic anchors

 

[daronwilson]

I use these most of the time:

http://www.panduit.com/products/products.asp?param=315&ig_id=797

They require drilling a hole, but in brick or block that is pretty quick. I've not had much luck with the nail on kind. The ones above can be used with the appropriate tie to hold most anything.

Daron J. Wilson, RCDD
Solving 'Real World' problems

 

[fs483]

Being plastique, I doubt they hold over time with high sun (UV) exposure, weight and cold... I'll shop around and see what I find in my local telco stores.

Thanks everyone.
akwong

 

[wires]

I doubt they hold over time"

How long are you looking for?

I installed some Panduit SSC2S-S10 over 15 years ago on a brick wall that is completely exposed to the elements. The afternoon sun is so intense that the wall is still quite warm after midnight and the installation has endured several "stop the city" ice storms. Even though the ties I installed were not the weather resistant variety they are still in excellent condition. I used the screw mounted "tab" part of the ties to secure replacement cable recently. The cable had not lasted as long as the ties even though the cable was rated for outdoor use by the manufacturer. Panduit apparently has updated the product with a black weather resistant part that shares the same part number.

From the Panduit FAQ:
Question: What is the outdoor life expectancy of a weather resistant cable tie compared to a standard nylon cable tie?
Answer: The weathering life expectancy of our weather resistant nylon 6.6 is 7-9 years whereas the weathering life expectancy of natural nylon 6.6 is 1-2 years.

I don't know what Panduit means by "weathering life expectancy" since I have seen natural nylon 6.6 in good condition after harsh exposure for 15+ years. I would expect the Panduit MPMS Masonry Push Mounts to last for the life of the wiring and then some.

Nice part Daron!

 

[bkrike]

After re-reading Akwongs post, I feel I must qualify my previous recommendation. I have had good luck with the tap-ins, but they are made for a specific application, which is brick. They will work on some foundation slabs, but are typically not very good for tilt-slab construction, as that tends to be much harder than the aforementioned materials. And they do not work at all on stucco.

I have also spent my entire career installing in the hot Arizona sun, where we never have a problem with ice. So, I cannot comment on how they would perform in your more severe winters. If I knew the cable was going to be weighed down with ice, I may have considered an anchor system that would utilize a drill for installation.

 

[fs483]

I'll give the Panduit ones a try. I know my telcom store stocks some Panduit stuff but not everything.

Thanks
akwong