CLID, multiple HNTN (area code)

[QcTek]

Hi,

I'd like to know if it's possible to use multiple HNTN in a single Opt81c system ? For example, if i have the following clid tables :

ENTRY 0
HNTN 613
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL 523
DIDN YES
HLOC 180
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

ENTRY 1
HNTN 613
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL 5234000
DIDN NO
HLOC 180
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

ENTRY 2
HNTN 866
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN NO
HLCL 3505228
DIDN NO
HLOC 180
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN


I tried using clid #2 on a set and placed an outbound call on a cell phone and I got "613-350-5228" instead of what I wanted : "866-350-5228".

Is there a way to force the set to send the HNTN specified in an other clid than the entry 0 and 1 ?

Thanks !

 

[acewarlock]

I have 2 different NXX's 648 and 675, this is how I did it
If they have a 648 DID they get CLID 0
If they have a 675 DID they get CLID 1

ENTRY 0
HNTN 480
ESA_HLCL 6484545
ESA_INHN YES
ESA_APDN NO
HLCL 648
DIDN YES
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

ENTRY 1
HNTN 480
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL 675
DIDN YES
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN





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[QcTek]

Well, in my case, let's say I have about 120 sets for which I would want to use a clid entry that would allow them to send for example : "866-350-5228" on outbound calls instead of displaying the default area code(HNTN), in this case 613 (area code found in clid entry 0 and 1).

So if my HLCL is 3505228 in my clid entry #2, I would like it to be sending out the specified HNTN(866) instead of displaying "613-350-5228".

For example, my set, which is non-DID, has :
key 0 scr 1454 2(­clid entry #2)

Right now, if I place an outbound call with this set or any other set using CLID 2, the displayed number is "613-350-5228" even though I specified 866 as my HNTN in my clid entry #2.

I don't know if it's possible ? Maybe the 613 area code is sent by the CO and can't be changed in the PBX?

Thanks

 

[pronei]

create a new clid entry similar to:

ENTRY 9
HNTN
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL 8663023615
DIDN NO
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

That will set your outbound CLID as the 866 number

 

[QcTek]

I tried with the clid entry as follow :

ENTRY 2
HNTN
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL 8663505228
DIDN NO
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN

And when I placed a call with a set using the clid #2, the number displayed was "613-866-3505"

So it is still using the HNTN from the entry 0 or 1...as if it was impossible to make it use a different HNTN ?

 

[pronei]

Prt the tnb of the set you are dialing from.

Make sure your key your using to dial out is using CLID entry 2.

 

[911guru]

I have to point out that in MOST of the examples above you send a BAD CLID FOR ESA E911 calls unless your carrier is slapping your LDN or another number on your outbound E911!!

ENTRY 0 
  HNTN 613
  ESA_HLCL 
  ESA_INHN NO 
  ESA_APDN YES 
  HLCL 523
  DIDN YES 
  HLOC 180
  LSC  
  CLASS_FMT DN 
[!] WILL SEND DN ONLY[/!]

ENTRY 1 
  HNTN 613
  ESA_HLCL 
  ESA_INHN NO 
  ESA_APDN YES 
  HLCL 5234000
  DIDN NO 
  HLOC 180
  LSC  
  CLASS_FMT DN 
[!] WILL SEND DN ONLY[/!]

ENTRY 2 
  HNTN 866
  ESA_HLCL 
  ESA_INHN NO 
  ESA_APDN NO 
  HLCL 3505228
  DIDN NO 
  HLOC 180
  LSC  
  CLASS_FMT DN
[!] WILL SEND NOTHING[/!]

ENTRY 0
HNTN 480
ESA_HLCL 6484545
ESA_INHN YES
ESA_APDN NO
HLCL 648
DIDN YES
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN
[!] THIS IS OK. WILL SEND 4806484545[/!]

ENTRY 1
HNTN 480
ESA_HLCL
ESA_INHN NO
ESA_APDN YES
HLCL 675
DIDN YES
HLOC
LSC
CLASS_FMT DN
[!] WILL SEND DN ONLY[/!]

ENTRY 9
  HNTN 
  ESA_HLCL 
  ESA_INHN NO 
  ESA_APDN YES 
  HLCL 8663023615
  DIDN NO 
  HLOC 
  LSC  
  CLASS_FMT DN
[!] WILL SEND DN ONLY[/!]

ENTRY 2
  HNTN 
  ESA_HLCL 
  ESA_INHN NO 
  ESA_APDN YES 
  HLCL 8663505228
  DIDN NO 
  HLOC 
  LSC  
  CLASS_FMT DN
[!] WILL SEND DN ONLY[/!]

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[acewarlock]

I don't know what to tell you but when I dial from a phone that has CLID 1, it shows 480-675-xxxx (DN of Phone)on the display of my cell Phone. So I guess my system is broken.




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[911guru]

You have to remember that when ESA is configured (properly), the ESA entries inthe CLID table are used to compose the CLID on 911 calls.

Other normal calls follow the non-ESA settings, so checking against your cell phone is showing you the proper results for that type of call.

By proper programming I mean ESA in LD 24 is set up correctly, and there is a AC1+911 SPN built that does an LTERM = YES and does not send AC1+911 directly to a route. That's the most common mistake, and will make you 911 and 9-911 calls work differently from a CLID perspective. Without the LTERM you never hit the ESA module, and therefore never pickup the ESA parameters in the CLID table.

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[911guru]

Also I should say that in 5.0 CLID tables are not the ONLY place ESA CLID can come from. See the LD 20 CLIDVER printout below:

   DN    KEY       TN       ERL   CTYP          CLID        ROUTE     CALLED#
------- ------ ----------- ----- ------- ------------------ ----- ----------------
   7031 00 SCR 096 0 00 31     0     [!]911 D[/!]       9735557000 I 911              911
                                     112 D       9735557000 I 911              112
                                    NATL         9735557031
                                    INTL         9735557031
                                     UDP            2027031
                                     CDP               7031

   7100 00 SCR 096 0 00 04    13     [!]911 S[/!]       9735557513 I 911              911
                                     112 S       9735557513 I 911              112
                                    NATL         9735557100
                                    INTL         9735557100
                                     UDP            2027100
                                     CDP               7100

   7101 00 SCR 096 0 00 14    14     [!]911 S[/!]       9735557514 I 911              911
                                     112 S       9735557514 I 911              112
                                    NATL         9735557101
                                    INTL         9735557101
                                     UDP            2027101
                                     CDP               7101

In the first example ESA CLID is coming from the DFCL in LD 24. (It's in ERL 0 since it is offline)
In the other 2 examples the CLID is coming from the STATIC ELIN as defined in the ERL.

In all cases the Internal LIS in in use and the [!]ECL[/!] is set to 0 (different from the ERL).

ECL 0 says NEVER use the CLID table for ESA. ECL is like ERL but is used to determine if the set is at it's 'home' physical location. This is used when all of your DIDs are mapped in PS-ALI at the PSAP. This way you can use your DID for E911 when at your 'home' physical location, and the ELIN or DFCL as appropriate when you are not.


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