cisco 857 1

[tjbradford]

download peformance

I have swapped out my ISP Router for my old 857w

Interestingly the ISP cheapo box gives me about 7 Mb download at weekends and upto 9Mb early morning work days.

However the best the Cisco can offer is 6Mb

What Tests can i run to see why this is ?

 

[silverhairb]

That's abut right. Here is the link to the Cisco router performance product sheet:

http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf

I was using an 831 and faced with a similar situation. I got an 877 that fixed it.


[the other] Bill

 

[tjbradford]

very handy document, would never have found that !

cheers , although it seems i'm going to have to buy something biggerererer and betterererererer.

 

[silverhairb]

Might take a look at an 877, a 2610XM or a 3640. With the 2610XM, you'll need to add a WIC-1ADSL card. There's at least one guru on this forum using that exact configuration.

With a bare 3640 you'll need to add a WIC-1ADSL and a netowrk module with an ethernet or fast ethernet port and a WIC interface (something like a NM-1FE1R2w). The 3640 might be a little more complex, but you'll get a huge bang for the buck. (eBay can be your friend)

Either of these will outperform an 877 for a lot less.

If you've got questions about these options or you have set-up questions, just come back and we'll help you work through them.


[the other] Bill

 

[burtsbees]

You still may be able to change the clock rate on the ATM interface and get faster than 6...

Burt

 

[tjbradford]

i have a 2600 router kicking about cant remember exact model
2611 not sure if it's an XM tho !

doubt it

shall have a look i have 3 or four adsl wic's although i thought they would only allow 2Mbps max begining to think it may be dependant on the router driving it.

 

[burtsbees]

Clock rate!!!

Burt

 

[silverhairb]

I don't see why you couldn't install one of those WICs and then start tuning the router. Burt has a 2620XM with a WIC-1ADSL. I defer to him for the particulars of tuning.

[the other] Bill

 

[tjbradford]

cisco 2620XM (MPC860P) processor (revision 0x100)

M860 processor: part number 5, mask 2
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
17 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
1 Serial network interface(s)
1 ATM network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
32768K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

ATM0/1 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)


example of my config
------------------------
interface ATM0/1
mac-address xxxx.xxxx.xxxx
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0/1.1 point-to-point
description ADSL2+ o2broadband
ip address dhcp
ip nat outside
atm route-bridged ip
no snmp trap link-status
pvc 0/101
oam-pvc manage
encapsulation aal5snap

nterface ATM0/1
mac-address yyyy.yyyy.yyyy
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0/1.1 point-to-point
description ADSL2+ o2broadband
ip address dhcp
ip nat outside
atm route-bridged ip
no snmp trap link-status
pvc 0/101
oam-pvc manage
encapsulation aal5snap

------------------------------------

my 2620xm gave me very disapointing results only achiving 2900kbps download this is worse than the 857
I was lead to believe that the limitation was not the wic 1 card but this seems to be the limiting factor as i orginally thought.


any idea's anybody ?

 

[tjbradford]

btw no clockrate option

 

[burtsbees]

Edge>en
Password:
Edge#sh ver
Cisco IOS Software, C2600 Software (C2600-ADVENTERPRISEK9-M), Version 12.4(23), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support:

http://www.cisco.com/techsupport

Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sat 08-Nov-08 20:53 by prod_rel_team

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.2(7r) [cmong 7r], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

Edge uptime is 2 days, 6 hours, 48 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System restarted at 06:51:35 CST Thu Apr 16 2009
System image file is "flash:c2600-adventerprisek9-mz.124-23.bin"


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States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and
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Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for
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agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable
to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.

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If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to
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Cisco 2620XM (MPC860P) processor (revision 1.0) with 127627K/3445K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID JAE07300L2Q
M860 processor: part number 5, mask 2
1 FastEthernet interface
1 ATM interface
32K bytes of NVRAM.
49152K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Edge#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
Edge(config)#int atm0/0
Edge(config-if)#clock rate ?
aal2 Clock rate for AAL2 channel
aal5 Clock rate for AAL5 channel

Edge(config-if)#clock rate aal2 ?
1000000 (default)
1300000
1600000
2000000
2600000
3200000
4000000
5300000
7000000

<1000000-7000000> clock rates in bits per second, choose one from above

Edge(config-if)#clock rate aal2

Have you tried that? I also have a 2620XM...what is the output of sh dsl int? Here's mine...

Edge#sh dsl int
ATM0/0
Alcatel 20150 chipset information
ATU-R (DS) ATU-C (US)
Modem Status: Showtime (DMTDSL_SHOWTIME)
DSL Mode: ITU G.992.1 (G.DMT) Annex A
ITU STD NUM: 0x01 0x1
Vendor ID: 'ALCB' ' '
Vendor Specific: 0x0000 0x0000
Vendor Country: 0x00 0x00
Capacity Used: 96% 97%
Noise Margin: 6.0 dB 7.0 dB
Output Power: 16.5 dBm 12.0 dBm
Attenuation: 24.0 dB 31.5 dB
Defect Status: None None
Last Fail Code: Error in early non-CRC message or in first CRC-covered message
Selftest Result: 0x00
Subfunction: 0x15
Interrupts: 1335 (0 spurious)
PHY Access Err: 0
Activations: 1
LED Status: ON
LED On Time: 100
LED Off Time: 100
Init FW: embedded
Operation FW: embedded
SW Version: 3.8131
FW Version: 0x1A04

Interleave Fast Interleave Fast
Speed (kbps): 0 6016 0 608
Cells: 0 377135 0 282975010
Reed-Solomon EC: 0 0 0 0
CRC Errors: 0 673 1 14986
Header Errors: 0 557 1 3961
Bit Errors: 0 0
BER Valid sec: 0 0
BER Invalid sec: 0 0

LOM Monitoring : Disabled

DMT Bits Per Bin
00: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 6 7 8 9 9 9 9 9
10: 9 8 8 8 8 7 8 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 5 5 6 7 7 8 9 9 A
30: A B B C C C C D D D D D D D D D
40: D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D
50: D D D D D D D D D D D C 2 C C C
60: C C C D C C C D C C C C C C C C
70: C C C C C C C C C C C C C C B 8
80: 8 B B C C C C C C C C C C C C C
90: C C 8 C C C C C C C B B B B B C
A0: 9 C C C C B B B B B B B B B B 0
B0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
C0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
D0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
E0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
F0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

DSL: Training log buffer capability is not enabled

The stats are download (fast) then upload (fast)...

Edge#sh inven
NAME: "2620XM chassis", DESCR: "2620XM chassis"
PID: C2620XM-1FE , VID: 1.0, SN: JAE07300L2Q

NAME: "WAN Interface Card - ATM (With ADSL module)", DESCR: "WAN Interface Card - ATM (With ADSL module)"
PID: WIC-1ADSL= , VID: 2.3, SN: FOC082526H4

You'll want to max out the aal2 and aal5 channels for the clock rate...

Burt

 

[burtsbees]

By the way, I get 5 down, 600 up.

Burt

 

[tjbradford]

downloaded same ios as yours not advanced image (lacking memory )

Cisco IOS Software, C2600 Software (C2600-IPBASEK9-M), Version 12.4(23), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support:

http://www.cisco.com/techsupport

Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sat 08-Nov-08 20:53 by prod_rel_team

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.2(7r) [cmong 7r], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

Router uptime is 9 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload
System image file is "flash:c2600-ipbasek9-mz.124-23.bin"

this then gave me the clock rate option that wasn't available before




sh dsl int
ATM0/1
Alcatel 20150 chipset information
ATU-R (DS) ATU-C (US)
Modem Status: Showtime (DMTDSL_SHOWTIME)
DSL Mode: ITU G.992.1 (G.DMT) Annex A
ITU STD NUM: 0x01 0x1
Vendor ID: 'ALCB' 'BDCM'
Vendor Specific: 0x0000 0x918F
Vendor Country: 0x00 0xB5
Capacity Used: 58% 93%
Noise Margin: 15.0 dB 7.0 dB
Output Power: 20.0 dBm 12.0 dBm
Attenuation: 31.5 dB 17.5 dB
Defect Status: None None
Last Fail Code: None
Selftest Result: 0x00
Subfunction: 0x15
Interrupts: 1335 (0 spurious)
PHY Access Err: 0
Activations: 1
LED Status: ON
LED On Time: 100
LED Off Time: 100
Init FW: embedded
Operation FW: embedded
SW Version: 3.8131
FW Version: 0x1A04

Interleave Fast Interleave Fast
Speed (kbps): 3520 0 896 0
Cells: 109532 0 175693 0
Reed-Solomon EC: 0 0 0 0
CRC Errors: 0 0 0 0
Header Errors: 0 0 0 0
Bit Errors: 0 0
BER Valid sec: 0 0
BER Invalid sec: 0 0

LOM Monitoring : Disabled

DMT Bits Per Bin
00: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 7 9 B B B B C C
10: C C C C C C C C B B A B B A 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 7 7 7 5 8 8 9 9 9
30: 9 9 9 A A A 9 A A 9 9 9 9 9 8 7
40: 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9
50: 9 9 9 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 2 8 8 8 8 8
60: 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 8
70: 8 8 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 7 4 6 4 5 4
80: 5 4 5 5 5 4 4 2 0 4 2 5 2 5 4 6
90: 2 5 3 5 2 4 0 2 2 4 4 4 2 2 2 2
A0: 0 0 2 2 4 3 4 3 5 3 5 3 5 2 5 3
B0: 4 5 5 2 3 4 4 5 4 5 2 4 3 5 5 5
C0: 4 5 2 5 5 4 2 3 2 2 0 2 3 3 4 4
D0: 4 2 4 2 4 2 4 2 4 2 2 0 0 2 3 0
E0: 2 2 3 3 3 4 3 3 2 4 2 4 2 5 2 4
F0: 4 5 3 3 0 3 4 4 3 2 3 2 2 0 2 0

DSL: Training log buffer capability is not enabled
Router#



what i can see is yours = Capacity Used: 96%
mine = Capacity Used: 58% = pants

thing is why is it not able to achive this the base ip image shouldn't affect the peformance should it? surly its just features only.


-----------------------------


Router#sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 1976 bytes
!
version 12.4
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
no service password-encryption
!
hostname Router
!
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
!
!
no aaa new-model
no network-clock-participate slot 1
no network-clock-participate wic 0
ip cef
!
!
no ip dhcp use vrf connected
ip dhcp excluded-address 192.168.1.254
!
ip dhcp pool lan-pool
import all
network 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0
dns-server 87.194.0.51 87.194.0.66
default-router 192.168.1.254
lease 0 8

bridge irb
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
shutdown
duplex auto
speed auto
!
interface Serial0/0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface ATM0/1
mac-address 010f.9f44.058c
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
dsl operating-mode auto
clock rate aal5 7000000
clock rate aal2 7000000
!
interface ATM0/1.1 point-to-point
description ADSL2+ o2broadband
ip address dhcp
ip nat outside
atm route-bridged ip
pvc 0/101
oam-pvc manage
encapsulation aal5snap
!
!
interface FastEthernet1/0

interface Vlan1
no ip address
ip tcp adjust-mss 1452
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
!
interface BVI1
ip address 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0
ip nat inside
!
ip forward-protocol nd
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 93.96.32.1
!
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
ip nat inside source list 102 interface ATM0/1.1 overload
access-list 102 permit ip 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 any
no cdp run
!
-------------------------------------------------


it interesting, it seems we have identical cards.

 

[burtsbees]

It looks like the WIC is not trained up to speed with the DSLAM...you mention you get faster speeds when it's not so busy---that tells me of course that CAR is not set on the ISP end to guarantee your max BW, depending on how far you are from the CO. You may have to try and turn the router on at a peak time to train it to the max BW that would be available to you, maybe like 3:30AM Tuesday morning...

Burt

 

[tjbradford]

how is it that my 857 sync's up above 2Mb where as the adsl wic never archives more that 2Mb which is basic bband not a
+ service. blow the dust back onto the old 2600 then as it seems to be pants now.