Cannot 'see' slave drive 1

[pilihp]

I have connected a maxtor drive, which has just been working as the master in a win'98 machine, as a slave in a new XP machine in order to access its data.
The bios picks up the maxtor as a slave and device manager also shows it as a maxtor drive.
The problem is it does not appear in My Computer so therefore I cannot access it. I have also tried connecting the maxtor in an external usb enclosure where it again shows in Device Manager but nowhere else. I tried changing the jumpers on the maxtor to no effect.
What can I do?
Philip

 

[acewarlock]

When you put it in the XP machine, did you set the jumper as slave on the old drive first?




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[pilihp]

I have tried every combination of jumper configuration to no avail. WHY can't Maxtor ever make these connections abundantly clear???

 

[Freestone]

If it shows in BIOS and Device Manager chances are good you have it jumpered correctly. If you supply us with the Maxtor model number we can perhaps find jumpering information to assist you with.

What does Disk Management show about this drive? Start, Run, diskmgmt.msc

 

[vacunita]

I concur with Freestone. If it spicked up by both things then its jumpered correctly.

You might just need to make it Active dfrom Disk Management as Freestone pointed out.

Take a look in there, and see if it is shown. If it is there should be an option to activate it.

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[pilihp]

Freestone & vacunita, many thanks.
The Maxtor drive is Model 91021u2 & is 10.2 GB
16383 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors.
The PC from whence it came is labeled Hewlet Packard and the Maxtor drive also has an HP sticker on it.
I'd be grateful if you could detail the procedure to make it 'active' if that is what is needed. I have had the same experience with other drives in the past and have never been able to overcome the problem.

 

[Freestone]

Here is a link to jumpering:

http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin...p.php?p_faqid=648&p_created=985373081&p_sid=r

If another device is on the cable, look at what it is set for. If it is Master or Slave, set the hard drive to the other, if Cable Select set the drive to Cable Select.

Tell us what Disk Management sees for the drive. Either click on Start, then Run..., in the Open text box type diskmgmt.msc then click OK, or right-click on My Computer, Manage, under Storage click on Disk Management.

 

[pilihp]

When going to Disk Management for first time The maxtor was not mentioned anywhere. I rescanned from device manager and the maxtor appeared in the lower half of the DM window but was absent from the top half. After trying various things and allocating a drive letter (F) to the maxtor the drive appears in the top window as a 'simple' 'dynamic' 'healthy' volume but without 'file system'. When trying to explore it I get asked "Do you want to format" - obviously I refuse this.

Sorry to have rushed ahead with the process you are trying to steer me through but I thought I had got there - sadly not yet!

I Look forward to the next installment.
Philip

 

[Freestone]

No problem with "rushing ahead" unless you converted the drive to dynamic.

Are there more partitions on the drive other than the one appearing as dynamic? If not then there is something wrong as Windows98 would not have been able to create a dynamic drive.

Is the drive still bootable in the older system? If not you may have to resort to a data recovery application.

 

[pilihp]

Yes, I am afraid that I must have converted it to 'Dynamic' as this is how it is identified in DM's lower window. It is called 'Disc 1', 'Dynamic' and 'Online'.

There is only the single partition for the maxtor mentioned in the top window along with the two partitions of my boot drive.

I shall now put the maxtor back in the '98 machine and will report back (probably tomorrow).

 

[pilihp]

I just tried the maxtor in original machine - No Operating System'(I readjusted the jumpers) - looks like I wrecked it!. Putting it back as slave in the XP machine I have the option to convert from Dynamic to Basic with the warning that some data will be lost - Does that mean ALL the data? The only data I really need is the email address book in OE. Wonder what you think?

 

[Freestone]

Converting back will lose data. See the warning section here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314343/EN-US/

A quick search on the web revealed no reliable way to circumvent this unless you want to pay. Partition Manager 8.5 claims to be able to convert dynamic to basic, but at a $99 USD price tag.

At this point you could try a recovery application with the drive reinstalled as a slave in your XP box.

A free one with much varied success:

http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1

Many have reported success with GetDataBack:

http://www.runtime.org/

 

[vacunita]

I too recommend Getdataback. it has a trial version that will let you see what if anything it can recover. If you are satisfied with what it can recover, you can then buy the full version to recover your data.

I suggest though, that you don't do anything else to the drive until you have recovered your data.

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Ignorance is not necessarily Bliss, case in point:
Unknown has caused an Unknown Error on Unknown and must be shutdown to prevent damage to Unknown.

 

[pilihp]

Thanks again vacunita and Freestone for all your valuable advice. I have got hold of R-Studio which seems to be working as a recovery programme. I think it will find my address book.

What I would like to know is why the maxtor wasn't recognised as a slave at the very beginning of all this. I have often connected disks in this way and some work without fuss and others have the difficulties just experienced.

 

[Freestone]

Yes, it should have worked from the beginning. It may very well be that it wasn't working due to something wrong in the MBR making XP think it was a dynamic drive all along. We'll probably never know with this drive.

XP's command-line tool Diskpart may have revealed more than Disk Management, but it was easier to start with DM.