Caller ID - Analog Trunks

[terrysdavid]

Guys. We have several CS1000Ms with most of them running Succession 4 or 4.5. At these locations, we have over 100 private lines. All these lines are analog and terminate on Analog Trunk Cards. We don't have DIDs. Our telecom provider only started provided DIDs about two years ago.

My understanding is that caller ID is not possible because of the trunk cards.

I also know that caller ID is possible on PRI circuits. This week we converted ALL the trunks lines to PRIs, so we have caller ID coming in now.

Is there any third party equipment out there that can provide caller ID for the CS1000 using analog trunks?

 

[telebub]

I don't know of any way to get CLID across analog trunks in a CS1000. I'll keep an eye on this thread in case someone else does.

You aren't trying to get CLID to analog stations are you? That is possible using the PRI and CLASS Modem cards.



War Eagle!!

 

[johnpoole]

you can get caller id on analog trunks.. most of us have that feature at home.. look at a class modem card.. that should let you translate that header and send it to a station..


i have used those to send clid from a pri to an analog station.. i don't see why you can't send the header from an analog trunk to a digtal station..

because pri's or 30 percent the price of analog trunks (in this area), i have not played with many analog trunks in almost 20 years... if the cust can't afford pri's, he may want to sit down when he gets a price on class modem cards.

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[telebub]

I know CLASS modem cards will send CLID to analog sets when a PRI is the trunk source but I have never heard of them having anything to do with analog trunks. I don't think you can do anything with CLID coming over analog trunks that terminate into an NT8D14 Universal trunk card.

War Eagle!!

 

[terrysdavid]

Thank you for the responses.
telebub I'm trying to get caller ID to our IP and Digital sets.

 

[terrysdavid]

Actually John my manager asked the same thing. If he can get caller ID on an analog line at home, why can't he get it on a fancy PBX?

All the private lines are not a block of numbers. The're all over the place:

658-2459, 658-7685, 658-4573.....

So it's not like I could removed all 140 analog trunks and put in DIDs.

I've heard that caller ID on analog trunks is possible on the simpler systems like the Norstar

 

[trvlr1]

You can send all the analog numbers you have in to your PRI. They do not need to be in blocks and if you do not want to you do not have to have additional DID ranges, though that is a cheap way of directing calls to specific phones. For a couple of hundred Analog lines you may want to replace with more than one PRI circuit, depending on your useage. You can also typically get better rates for LD using outbound on the PRI circuits than on analog lines and even better rates if you use dedicated LD circuits directly to your chosen LD provider.
In all of this you will of course get the caller ID you were looking for being delivered to your PBX as you know and cut down on maintenance costs as well as telco costs.
Hope this helps.

 

[tnphoneman]

I believe in order for you to get caller id on an incoming call over analog trunks terminated to a NT8D14 universal trunk card the trunks need to be CAMA trunks and you need MFR cards also. Basically you would get the ANI for the caller. This is used in many 911 PSAP locations.

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[GHTROUT]

terrysdavid's manager is right. Who was the brilliant Nortel decision maker that determined Caller ID on Analog Trunk Cards wasn't important. I mean, you can buy a box at any drug store for under $10 to read it, and it even stores the last hundred caller numbers!


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[tnphoneman]

In all reality when Caller ID came out the world of business was switching to PRI from DTI and analog trunks. Why waste R&D money on old architecture? Truthfully now days I am usually only installing one XUT on an install and that is for paging access and sometimes propoganda on hold.

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[musharraf]

I don't know in which region you are, I am in APAC and we are using NTRB37, DXUT-A trunk card successfully to get CLID on our analog trunks.
Regards

 

[tnphoneman]

I am in the United States and there have been several features on this system outside the US that are not available here. Probably due to some archaic FCC regulation some where.

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[Reusser]

Do like John suggested and order and install 1 or more PRI T1s (depending on how many trunks you are replacing)

The price of 1 T1 (23 B channnels) is about the same as 8 analog trunks.

You could save your company hundred of dollars a month and be the Hero - maybe you will even get a bonus for the cost savings.