C-Lan Card Install

[mottelecom]

Good Morning,

I'm looking to install a C-Lan card in a G3SI Release 9. Can I purchase the card and administer it myself? Is it as simple as plugging it in and programming the IP, subnet, and Default Gateway? The only reason were installing the card is to IP the switch, so we can run a IP alive ping from our network monitoring software. Information is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Casey

 

[AlliedSimpson]

C-LAN is basically your Network Interface from the Switch to what ever you are connecting to. It replaces the 8400 and 7400 Data Terminal Devices.

The C-LAN needs a IP and Subnet to talk to what ever. From there it is up to you.

 

[schned99]

The CLAN can be purchased from Avaya Direct or a business partner. It can be inserted into any hot swap slot while the system is powered up. The system will recognize the card and you will need to change node-names and add an IP address, change ip-interfaces and assign a default gateway and subnet mask, add an ethernet data module. You will not be able to make a SAT terminal connection unless your switch is release 9.5 or later. If you have relase 9.5 or later, you can change ip-services and add the SAT terminal service.

 

[BuckWeet]

"You will not be able to make a SAT terminal connection unless your switch is release 9.5 or later. If you have relase 9.5 or later, you can change ip-services and add the SAT terminal service."


Thats incorrect

any r9.x release has it...


BuckWeet

 

[RTMCKEE]

i'll second what BW said,
I have two switches with v9.02 both have c-lan cards and we adminster them thru dsa via the enet port.

rtmckee

 

[schned99]

I stand corrected. I had 9.5 in my head for some reason, but the R9 documentation clearly states:

This R9 feature provides the option of TCP/IP connectivity for some asynchronous switch adjuncts to the DEFINITY ECS, GuestWorks, ProLogix and DEFINITY BCS.

This feature provides a telnet server to connect system management applications, such as DSA, DNA, DNM, ProVision and Avaya Directory Gateway.

For the user, this means the ability to support more adjuncts with less hardware, as well as increased data speed.

 

[mottelecom]

Thanks For all your input. I think were going to use a business partner to perform the translations.

 

[BuckWeet]

heh, I wouldn't pay anyone to do it..

The translations are so simple...

We could walk you through them easily...

BuckWeet

 

[ken07734]

Keep in mind that you may need RTU's for that to work.
check your docs on that and do a display sys cus to see if you won't have problems. can not remember which ones right now but you may have to activate the bus bridge to make it work.

 

[SnowTech]

All I can tell you about our experience with the C-Lan card was that when we installed it, it was in conjunction with installing the VAL announcement board. (Then new one with 60 mins of record time) It took our Avaya Techs a night to get everything back up and working. In fairness we also upgraded software versions as well. In addition we are investigating a VoIP application for our switch and have been informed by avaya that we will have to upgrade our C-Lan board. At no cost if we purchase the VoIP equipment from Avaya.

 

[BuckWeet]

umm, upgrading your CLAN board to support VoIP? thats a load of bull. We currently use the TN799C for our VOIP DCS network.. I've seen 799B's used, wonder why they want you to go to a TN799DP though.. At least its free I guess.. (but you have to buy it from them)


BuckWeet

 

[Rickbro]

Maybe they are talking a simple firmware upgrade which is free anyway.

Rickbro

 

[SnowTech]

Our board shows it is a TN799D and BuckWeet may be right, since this would not be the first time we have received contradictary info from different Technicians at Avaya.
BuckWeet are you using the 4600 IP Phones? Perhaps I'm mistaken, but this is why I decided to post to this forum do to my frustration w/ some of Lucent/Avaya's documentation.

 

[BuckWeet]

Yeah, I'm running 46xx series phones and doing IP trunking all from a single TN799C card.. Anotehr thing, AVAYA always overspecs their cards.. I did an install not to long ago.. We did Main site with 3 remotes.. They ended up spec'ing 3 Medpro Boards and 2 TN799DP clan boards, for 36 Trunks.. Talk about over kill.. The customer ended up wanting to do G711 as well.. So a single Medpro and Single CLAN could handle that no problem..

BuckWeet

 

[schned99]

The only reason I could guess that Avaya would want you to go to TN799DP is that the TN799DP can communicate at 100Mbps as opposed to the TN799C and earlier that can only communicate at 10Mbps. The speed goes a long way toward maintaining QoS in VoIP trunks and stations.

 

[BuckWeet]

But heres the thing, the CLAN causes very little traffic, its just for call control... and whether its 10mb or 100mb, it might be going through a T1 link.. Which is slow..

AVAYA just wants more money..

BuckWeet

 

[PBXJay]

We recently upgraded to R10 for VOIP and they gave us the DP version of the card on the grounds it would be easier to flash the firmware for updates as VOIP is constantly getting updated. They also configured it to run at 10/half and did not recommend running it at 100/full. Did not have any luck using their softphone product while we had a thin client internet application working at same time. We ended up with IP hard phones on everyone's desk using one cajun port for voice and one for PC as the hub feature on the 4612 needs work. Uggh.
-Jay