broad band connection sharing w/o router 3

[8humhum8]

okay i have a question that might sound stupid, but id like it answered before i spend 50$ on a router:

i have two comps and a hub. also, i have a ADSL connection. the hub has 10 IN ports and 1 IN/OUT port. the comps are connected to the IN ports, and the DSL modem is connected to IN/OUT port set to OUT.

to have both comps access the internet, i had to install the Verizon software on both computers and setup two different accounts for the same DSL connection. for those of you who use verizon, you probably know that verizon allows you to access the same connection from various accounts simultaneously.

in any case, when both connections are active (no matter the exact bandwidth usage) ping times double or even triple. i usually have ~80-90 (but it varies in different games) and last time i had ~265 when my brother was using the other comp - and he was just chatting on AIM, nothing more.

so, could this additional ping time be just a natural result of a connection share, or because i use 2 accounts on the same line? does overhead add up when multiple accounts are setup this way? in other words, if i buy a router and have one connection, will this solve my problem? thanx in advance.

 

[bcastner]

A router will not help you in this situation; you have a certain size pipe coming to you through your 1 connection to the Central Office, and you are dividing it two ways.

What could help, perhaps a lot, would be to use a switch instead of the hub.

 

[8humhum8]

hmm, correct me if im wrong, but a router is just like a switch that can connect to the internet. so if i use a router, it will still improve perforemance.

in any case i get your meaning. guess ill just stick to my hub...

 

[manarth]

a router is not like a switch, however, a number of routers these days have a 4 port switch integrated, which is often the source of confusion.

puchasing a 4 port switch (about UK £25) should improve your performance (especially when using bandwidth intensive applications on both the PCs simultaneously).

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[ElijahBaley]

You would replace the hub with the switch, If you are both using the connection at the same time and are moving a lot of data, then there may be some collisions going on in the shared hub, the switch avoids this by separating your existing 1 collision domain (hub) into 3 separate domains one each for the 3 ethernet nodes, so collisions would become non existent.

EB

 

[8humhum8]

thx for the replies guys.

okay so say i get a switch, how do i set it up? as far as i know, a switch isnt like a bridge, it cant interconnect two networks, so it cant connect my comps to the internet. as i said ive two comps and a connection.

 

[manarth]

setit up in exactly the same way as your hub.

a hub and a switch bsaically does EXACTLY THE SAME THING - a switch operates 'faster' under high network loads (by reducing the number of lost packets).

you know you've got your modem plugged into your &quot;out&quot; port?
there's nothing particularly special about this port - basically, when you connect a PC to a network device (hub / switch / router / etc) you use a standard patch cable. When connecting 2 network devices, you normally need a crossover cable - what your &quot;out&quot; port does is crossover the wires for you, which allows you to use a standard patch cable instead of needing a crossover cable.

Most switches have an &quot;uplink&quot; port which will do the same trick.

<marc> i wonder what will happen if i press this...[ul][li]please give feedback on what works / what doesn't[/li][li]need some help? how to get a better answer: faq581-3339[/li][/ul]

 

[8humhum8]

i c manarth, thank you. thank you all for ur help.