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'Black' background not black colour

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rossmcd

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Jun 28, 2006
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Folks

I'm using Indesign CS2 and have a black rectangle onto which I wish to place pale coloured text.

Rectangle is coloured 'Black' swatch per Indesign preset colour (CMYK 0 0 0 100) but Indesign seems to automatically convert this to a browny grey colour (CMYK 75 68 98 90).

I've tried creating a new swatch colour 0 0 0 100, and also tried clicking fill colour in left hand panel and changing colour to 0 0 0 100. Also, my preferences in 'Appearance of Black' are set to 'Rich Black'.

But the rectangle is adament in that it does not want to be black!

Any thoughts?

Ross
 
I can't think of any good idea why it doesn't work, especially as a new swatch should work just fine.

What are your colour prefs set to?
 
thanks for response.

Colour settings...I've tried two settings in Working Spaces:
- US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 ... being the default
- Europe ISO coated FOGRA27

In 'Appearance of Black' then Rich Black selected for both on-screen and output. Overprint [Black] swatch at 100% box checked (but I have tried creating a new 'black' swatch).
 
Is the black looking brown on screen or at print?

If it's print, what type of printer are you using. If using a standard inkjet, it probably works in teh rgb color space, not cmyk, That will give you big color shifts.

If the brown is on screen, your monitor is incorrect. In the Indesign color space, try changing the rgb value to something like srgb or Adobe rgb.

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4
 
thanks tangerinewoman - tried removing saveddata per your link. Indeed I also reset preferences (in case useful to other users...hold Ctrl+Option+Command+Shift while Indesign loads).
I think that this may have solved the problem.

jmgalvin, both. not printing on my own printer.
i recently used similar artwork in a glossy magazine advert (printed professionally by publisher) and the black was decidedly unblack. but think removing defaults has solved my problem. thanks.

cheers.

 
>>Also, my preferences in 'Appearance of Black' are set to 'Rich Black'.<<

Perhpas this is where your problem lies. Rich black is a mix of 3 of the process colours (usually black with added cyan and magenta) and this is contradicting your wish to use pure black.

>>Overprint [Black] swatch at 100% box checked <<

I suspect this isn't helping either.

Just make a new swatch in the swatches palette, of 0/0/0/100, and use this when applying fill to your rectangle. And turn off the overprinting and rich black checkboxes.
 
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