I am trying to replace my system (PATA) with a different system (SATA) and used DriveImage XML to backup the PATA system's two partitions, a SystemReserved one that is the boot drive and my C: partition. That seems to have worked okay. When I then restore these images to the replacement system with a SATA drive, The partitions are restored okay, but they are now marked as the first partition being the SystemReserved drive as C: and the main partition as D: - The system will not boot and System Recover also is unsuccessful in recovering it. It gets an error indicating it cannot save the Boot Options. I suspect this is due to the way the partitions have been recreated - both are NTFS (match the PATA) but the first partition shows up as having been assigned the C: drive. DiskPart also shows this on the List Volume command. What am I missing? or do I need to use a different backup method - I hope this can be made to work as I rely on the DriveImage XML backups a lot - just have never had the need to restore the complete system for W7 or W8 before.
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Backup/Restore of Windows 7 Problems 1
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In addition to partitions, a hard drive has a boot sector that contains the MBR (Master Boot Record). My guess is that you have backed up the partitions only and not the entire drive.
You probably need to read through the How To's on the company's site:
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This one shows you how to properly create an image of the entire drive.
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You probably need to read through the How To's on the company's site:
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This one shows you how to properly create an image of the entire drive.
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@rclark - I don't currently have access to a system with both PATA and SATA drives, but my problem really is begging a different question than whether cloning would be easier.. that being are my backups any good in case of a complete hard drive failure or should I be doing something else.
@cdogg - Thanks for the pointer. I had seen these products but did not focus on them as I understood their DriveImage XML to be a good backup/restore product and I frequently use it on a UBCD4Win DVD setup.. Might need to look into their GetDataBack products for this instead.
@cdogg - Thanks for the pointer. I had seen these products but did not focus on them as I understood their DriveImage XML to be a good backup/restore product and I frequently use it on a UBCD4Win DVD setup.. Might need to look into their GetDataBack products for this instead.
artheim,
You can use a USB adapter to connect older IDE drives (a.k.a. PATA) to newer systems. Decent ones run about $30. Here's one I use quite often:
Also, I would think DriveImage XML should be able to make complete backups. It's probably in that documentation somewhere, but you might want to google it as well. As for your current backups, they're not a complete loss. Even if they're only partition backups, you can always install a fresh copy of Windows creating the same size system partition, and then once it's installed, overwrite the partition with the one in your backup. The key here is to make a note somewhere of the current partition size to save you time. Hope that makes sense.
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You can use a USB adapter to connect older IDE drives (a.k.a. PATA) to newer systems. Decent ones run about $30. Here's one I use quite often:
Also, I would think DriveImage XML should be able to make complete backups. It's probably in that documentation somewhere, but you might want to google it as well. As for your current backups, they're not a complete loss. Even if they're only partition backups, you can always install a fresh copy of Windows creating the same size system partition, and then once it's installed, overwrite the partition with the one in your backup. The key here is to make a note somewhere of the current partition size to save you time. Hope that makes sense.
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rclarke250
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You are going to run into issues going from a system using a pata hard drive to a new system using a sata drive, and a different motherboard and chipset anyways. Unlike XP, windows 7 will not boot, if it sees a different chipset then the original installation had. There are ways to delete certain files, and ready a hard drive to be installed in a system with different hardware, but that wouldn't work for an image file. You are better served just installing windows on the new system, getting it all setup, install all of the applications, and then copy the data over. Of course you would need new licenses for the new applications installed on the new system, or you would need to delete them from the old system.
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I found that the problem I am having is due to the SATA BIOS setup being set for AHCI and it needed to be ATA. Once that was changed, the DriveImage restored successfully - I only needed to enter a valid license code for that system - did not need to reload anything else and all appears to be working now. That setting was precluding any of the different image backup/restores from working as apparently different drivers are required for the SATA AHCI and without re-installing Windows 7 from scratch, they would not have been included on the system. Thanks for all the suggestions.
rclarke,
That was a good catch. I somehow missed the fact that the restored image was being paired with a new motherboard/chipset. If it were Windows XP, artheim would have certainly had issues with that procedure. However, fortunately the motherboard/chipset wasn't that new of a model, and its drivers were embedded in Windows 7.
artheim,
Glad to see it worked out. Realize that running in ATA mode (IDE mode) turns off some of the advanced features that SATA drives have for speeding up disk access, but at least it's working! If you decide to fiddle around with the OS and try to get AHCI mode turned on, there is a way, but it takes some work which is meant for more advanced users. Post back with the make/model of your motherboard if you want to attempt it.
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That was a good catch. I somehow missed the fact that the restored image was being paired with a new motherboard/chipset. If it were Windows XP, artheim would have certainly had issues with that procedure. However, fortunately the motherboard/chipset wasn't that new of a model, and its drivers were embedded in Windows 7.
artheim,
Glad to see it worked out. Realize that running in ATA mode (IDE mode) turns off some of the advanced features that SATA drives have for speeding up disk access, but at least it's working! If you decide to fiddle around with the OS and try to get AHCI mode turned on, there is a way, but it takes some work which is meant for more advanced users. Post back with the make/model of your motherboard if you want to attempt it.
-Carl
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rclarke250
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It is a mixed bag with windows 7, that is for sure. Sometimes it boots right up, and just need to input the new key, and it loads the default drivers, at least enough to load the latest drivers, glad it worked that way here. Sometimes it just get into a boot loop, and refuses to look for another driver, and even recovery fails.
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